#2394 - Palmer Luckey

**Joe Rogan** (0:03)
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**Joe Rogan** (0:15)
I haven't done the ball, but I have done those knee chairs.

**Palmer Luckey** (0:18)
Okay.

**Joe Rogan** (0:18)
They're a little annoying. And you're like...

**Palmer Luckey** (0:20)
What about standing desks? You a standing desk fan?

**Joe Rogan** (0:23)
No.

**Palmer Luckey** (0:24)
Yeah, when I use them, I usually have lower back gets kind of sore just standing there.

**Joe Rogan** (0:29)
I feel like some part of you should be relaxed. And if you're standing, you're going to want to lean on something, to have a conversation especially. Because I know some people do podcasts standing up, like a standing up table.

**Palmer Luckey** (0:41)
That's crazy. I have a buddy of mine who's doing a... Have you ever seen the float tanks? Where you float in the salt water?

**Joe Rogan** (0:48)
Yeah, we have one here.

**Palmer Luckey** (0:49)
Oh, no way. So I know someone who is building a rig with a waterproof keyboard, waterproof mouse and a VR headset so that they can have a float computing rig. And they want to program while they're floating in space. And he hasn't gotten all the way there yet. The hardest part has actually been the mouse. There's lots of waterproof keyboards for various industrial applications, like, you know, so you don't get metal shavings in them or oil in them. But mice, it's actually harder.

**Joe Rogan** (1:17)
That makes sense because there's a... Well, it's a laser now. It used to be an actual ball.

**Palmer Luckey** (1:21)
That would have been really hard. Yeah, at this point, I don't think it's that hard. I think he's been screwing around with just taking a normal one and then wrapping it in Saran wrap. But, you know, that's kind of splash proof, but not immersion proof.

**Joe Rogan** (1:35)
Is he actually underwater with the set up?

**Palmer Luckey** (1:38)
Yeah, so because if you're taking your hands up out of the water, you know, one, it's uncomfortable.

**Joe Rogan** (1:42)
So he's floating like this and the keyboard...

**Palmer Luckey** (1:46)
Underwater. Yeah, exactly. So you're floating at neutral position, basically.

**Joe Rogan** (1:50)
And just to code, he wants to code like that?

**Palmer Luckey** (1:52)
He wants to code.

**Joe Rogan** (1:53)
He must be a super weirdo.

**Palmer Luckey** (1:56)
I want to do it for VR gaming. I think that would be really interesting. It's kind of...
If you can't simulate the experience of your body being in the game, at least to forget that your body exists and have the only thing you're viewing be your vision and the sound, I feel like would be a very interesting experience. So I'm begging off an hour from him when he gets it done, but I'm looking forward to that.

**Joe Rogan** (2:20)
I would let you use ours to try it out, but we just had a problem with one of our pumps broke. So it's flooded everything with saltwater. It's weird. It's a weird. Have you done it?

**Palmer Luckey** (2:32)
I have actually never done it. I'm so fascinated by it. And I've actually booked a session at some of those like float tank companies several times. And then every single time my schedule has intervened and it turns out that I've not been able to do it.

**Joe Rogan** (2:44)
So you should get one for your place.

**Palmer Luckey** (2:46)
Maybe I should. Yeah, I should probably try it first, right? Or is it just so good I should have it?

**Joe Rogan** (2:52)
Yeah, you'll love it. Yeah, it's very relaxing too. And it's really good for thinking. Like if you have a thought and you're just fucking around with it in your head, you're like, I don't know what to do with this. You're in there, you have zero distractions. It's like your mind has more computational power that's available. Because even though you don't think about it, like right now we're in these chairs, your butt's touching the chair, your feet are on the floor, your hand's on the table, your clothes are on your body. There's all these different things that your body is recognizing as input. When you take those away, it's like if you're having a conversation, there's a bunch of people right beside you with a jackhammer. You're like, this is too distracting, let's go over here. And you go to where in the park it's nice and peaceful, now you can have a conversation so much easier. Well, you don't realize that regular everyday life just establishing the distance between the walls and thinking about all the data, all that stuff is your brain is computing this.