#2387 - Gregg Braden

**Gregg Braden** (0:01)
Joe Rogan Podcast, checking out The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Joe Rogan** (0:06)
Shrink by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:12)
We just missed a fabulous conversation about your hair.

**Joe Rogan** (0:14)
Your best hair.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:16)
I would not wear headsets.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:17)
Are we recording right now?

**SPEAKER_4** (0:18)
Yeah, we're going now.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:20)
So did you ever know Wayne Dyer?

**SPEAKER_4** (0:22)
No, I didn't know Wayne Dyer. Do we have Wayne Dyer on the podcast ever? Like way, way, way, way, way back in the day?

**SPEAKER_3** (0:31)
I was on a cruise with, we had the same publisher, Hay House, is our publisher and we were on a cruise just off Australia. Of course, the sun's out there and Wayne came out and he's got a very shiny head. He said, Gregg Braden. I said, yeah. He says, you see this? I said, yeah. He said, this is a solar panel for a sex machine.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:50)
Okay.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:52)
I couldn't match that. So I said, well, you see this? I said, these are every one of these, every one of these hairs is a highly advanced, finely tuned antenna to higher dimensional state spaces information. And so that was our joke about hair and no hair.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:09)
Imagine if like that's what made you enlightened, how much hair you had. No one started to fall out. You got dumber.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:15)
Like I said, they, every decade of my life, they're saying, if you have it this decade, you can keep it. So when I hit my seventies, they said, you got this, you can probably keep it.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:24)
So, oh yeah, if you have minoxidil, like if you got like really good at it today, and there's a bunch of different DHT inhibitors that are topical that they could use. My friend Derek from Derek More Plates More Dates, it's a website. He's got a bunch of like protocols and how to save your hair. So people want to save their hair. But we were talking about Art Bell when we came in here because there's a photograph of art on the wall that like was one of the most important things for me to put up. Like we talked about it and Jamie and I were like, Oh, you got to get it. We got to get a metal picture of Art Bell because that was the guy, man. When I was driving home from the comedy store at like 1 o'clock in the morning and I was listening to AM radio coast to coast with Art Bell from the kingdom of die. It was my favorite. This is like all for me was kind of pre internet too. Like, you know, the internet existed, but it wasn't the thing that it is now. There was no podcasts.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:16)
No, but you know, the crazy thing is the stuff that was on that program that was all fringe is what everybody's talking about every day at lunch right now.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:25)
Area 51, Bob Lazar, totally mainstream.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:28)
You know, he was so kind to me. He had me on his program before I had my first book. I self-published my first two books and I was doing talks all over up and down the West Coast up in the Vancouver. And he had heard somebody in his shop had been to one of those talks and he invited me on, no book, and then he had me on a number of times after that. And so I was very honored to be on there and you know, we talked about everything, man. That was the thing, you could talk about anything you wanted to talk about.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:00)
It was also like, art was a show where you could get real information and you could also get complete horseshit. And you had to be able to discern what is what, but art treated everyone with equal respect. Like you could call him up, art, I'm a werewolf. You're like, interesting.

**SPEAKER_6** (3:18)
Tell me more.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:20)
It was never like, bitch, you're not a werewolf. You're just mentally ill. You need to get some Prozac or whatever they give you.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:26)
Well, you still got to be discerning today. You know, I think I say it's...

**SPEAKER_4** (3:30)
Well, today you more so than ever because of AI and because of bots and what's going on.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:36)
I think it's important to have an open mind, but not a gaping mind. And there are a lot of...

**SPEAKER_4** (3:43)
Unfortunate use of terminology, but yes, I agree wholeheartedly.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:47)
You know, part of the reason for that, and you know this, we have a global audience. A lot of those people are very hurt, unresolved hurt. They're right on the edge. They're very fragile personalities.