#2374 - Ben van Kerkwyk

Joe Rogan (0:01)

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Joe Rogan (0:06)

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Joe Rogan (0:12)

Ben, so excited to talk to you, man. I have been so looking forward to this. Since I saw your video on the Labrinus in Egypt, spoiler alert, there appears to be a 40-meter-long metallic tic-tac-shaped object. How deep into the ground?

Ben van Kerkwyk (0:33)

It's in the central atrium, which we'll get into what that is, but somewhere in the realm of 60, 70 meters. So, man, what's that in feet? Like 200 feet, 150 to 180 feet down, something like that.

Joe Rogan (0:45)

So for anybody who's interested, what is the name of that video that you put out?

Ben van Kerkwyk (0:50)

I think it's the ancient structure, like it's said to be greater than the pyramids. I tried to tease it a little bit, but it's on my channel.

Joe Rogan (0:57)

Well, it was a good tease. You got me.

Ben van Kerkwyk (0:58)

Thank you.

Joe Rogan (0:59)

I dove right in. And I remember, I was in the gym while I was watching it, and I literally stopped working out. I was like, okay, I got to pause this. Because this is not something that I can consume while I'm working out. I need to really pay attention to this, because it's so wild. Yeah.

Ben van Kerkwyk (1:12)

And honestly, I'm grateful for how that video took off.

For me, it took off way bigger than ones that I've done in the past. I talked about The Labyrinth in the past, and it's a much longer video. And I was really glad to get the chance to dive into these details, because I've been wanting to revisit The Labyrinth for a long time. However, there's just been recently a bunch of new data that came up about things that happened a decade or two ago, or inside the last decade that really changed that picture. And that was, it was things like the Merlin Burrows scans that correlated other scans and also reported on, yeah, there seems to be a metallic object down there. And this isn't, you know, this isn't sort of crazy emerging science. This is a legitimate company that is using technology that's been well established in defense, and in the UK defense, it came out of the UK military as a technology that's been more or less proven. So, and the guy that Tim Akers, rest in peace, unfortunately, he's since passed, but he, you know, what he said about this object, like he's, he is a credible guy to say this. He doesn't draw conclusions about what it might be, but it's definitely, it's not wood, it's not stone, it's metal. It's not unlike other metal that he's seen, although he couldn't classify what exact type of metal it is. But he said, yeah, there is a, in this central atrium, because the labyrinth has multiple levels, and it's almost like you're, imagine yourself standing in a shopping mall, and you have that central atrium where you can see all these levels. And it's like this big central chamber that connects to these multiple levels that's open. It's at least 40 meters long. It's really tall. And in the center of it is what's more than 40, because it contains this single sort of 40 piece, 40 meter long object that's sitting in there.

Joe Rogan (2:54)

So how did you find out about the labyrinth? Like this is something that has been talked about for a long time.

Ben van Kerkwyk (3:02)

Thousands of years.

Joe Rogan (3:03)

Yeah, but no one, it's not in any traditional archaeology books. It is. Is it?

Ben van Kerkwyk (3:11)

Yeah, no, it is. So the labyrinth is kind of, this is the other part that drew me to it, is that it isn't something that's coming out of left field, right? It's not like this, oh, no one ever heard of this before. It's literally a structure that was written about extensively over hundreds of years in antiquity by authors like Herodotus, Deodorus Siculus, Pliny the Elder, Strabo, Polonius Mellor.

There's all of these writers of antiquity, and you're talking about time, for instance, from 500 BC up to the first century AD, had visited it, and they'd written about it and talked about it, and they gave it this legend. Guys like Herodotus said that it surpasses the pyramids in grandeur, and then you have, yeah, so this is from Herodotus' histories in the fifth century BC, and he says, for this I saw myself and I found it greater than words can say, for if one should put together and reckon up all the buildings and all of the great works produced by the Hellenes, the Greeks, they would prove to be inferior in labor and expense to this labyrinth. So he's saying that all of the temples of the Greeks, of ancient Greece, you've been there, you've seen the Acropolis, and just if you added them all up, the labor to produce them would be inferior in what it would take to just make this one thing in Egypt, the labyrinth.