#2370 - Dave Smith

Joe Rogan (0:03)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan (0:06)

Shrain by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. How weird is it to be Dave Smith?

Dave Smith (0:14)

It's a little bit weird. It's weirder to be Joe Rogan.

Joe Rogan (0:18)

You think?

Dave Smith (0:19)

Yeah, it's gotta be.

Joe Rogan (0:21)

It's weird. It's weird to be any person in the public eye, but in this time, it's particularly weird. If you're like one of the only people. I mean, the media is so bizarrely compromised. It's so weird when you watch these narratives spin, both on the left and on the right, and you're like, is anybody fucking rational? Is anybody looking at this so few that a comedian, like yourself, just rises to the top of the heap?

Dave Smith (0:54)

Well, it's funny, dude, because so like since the last time, I was on, this has been kind of like the knock on me in a way now.

Joe Rogan (1:02)

Is that your comedian?

Dave Smith (1:03)

You're just a comedian.

Joe Rogan (1:04)

You're my emotional support comedian.

Dave Smith (1:06)

That's right, yes, that's right.

Joe Rogan (1:08)

Have you ever been an emotional support comedian?

Dave Smith (1:11)

It feels weird doing this without Doug, to be honest. It seems kind of wrong. But that's been like the, essentially that's like the knock is like, yeah, but you're acting like you're an expert, but you're just some comedian. And it's like, no, that's the point.

That's always been the point. Like, yes, I'm just a comedian. I'm not an expert. And still, being not an expert, hand me your favorite Warhawk, and I will tear them to shreds, because it's actually not that hard. And like, these people aren't really experts either.

Joe Rogan (1:41)

Well, also the problem with that is, these people that are talking about these things are talking about people not being experts while they're not experts.

Joe Rogan (1:49)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:50)

There's, you know, what does Doug have a degree in? English?

Dave Smith (1:54)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:54)

Right.

Joe Rogan (1:54)

OK. Sam Harris is a neuroscientist. You know, there's all these different people who have, you know, expertise in one area that is pretty much outside geopolitical, you know, world politics and international relations and chaos and war and the military-industrial complex. And like, these are very complex, sophisticated, nuanced discussions that you have to have when you're talking about these things, because there's so many different factors at play. There's so much money, there's so much bullshit in terms of like, what's the truth? What's the narrative? Who's pushing the narrative? Who's being paid to push the narrative? Which is really weird. There's so many of these fucking online influencers that I don't even think are really human beings that have like prominent accounts.

Dave Smith (2:41)

Yep. Yep. But then there's also, it's a convenient kind of way to dismiss somebody.

Joe Rogan (2:47)

Of course, instead of addressing the facts.

Dave Smith (2:49)

Well, I thought it was, this just, I thought was really funny to me was that, so like a few days after the last time, after me and Douglas Murray debated on the show, he went on Bill Maher's show. And so it's like after having this whole thing, the whole 45 minutes opening the show about how you comedians don't know what you're talking about, he says don't know what you're talking about, while he's smearing two people who he's never heard of and doesn't even know what they do or whatever, but not the best way to make an appeal to expertise. But he doesn't have a problem with Bill Maher doing it because he agrees with him. So the issue isn't really being an expert versus being a comedian. You know, Constantin Kassin went on this whole thing about expertise and all of this, and it's like, he also started as a comedian. Why all of a sudden does this standard only apply to me and only when I'm talking about Israel?

It never applied to me when I was talking about COVID. It never applied to me when they agreed with me on stuff. They would just go, look, Dave, breaking it down. But now, there's this one topic that one guy is not allowed to not be an expert on, and it happens to be this one topic that the entire population is turning on. I shouldn't say the entire, but huge numbers.

Joe Rogan (3:58)

When someone attacks what you do professionally versus what you're actually saying, why not just dispute what he's saying instead of this appeal to authority? You're not an expert.

Dave Smith (4:13)