#2364 - Brandon Epstein

Brandon Epstein (0:01)

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan (0:06)

Shrain by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

Brandon Epstein (0:13)

The episodes of Guys Who Cut On, who fall into the camp, who had their YouTube channel deleted, and were talking about, like, wellness, like doctors talking about COVID stuff.

Jamie (0:24)

There was a bunch of doctors that had their YouTube accounts deleted.

Brandon Epstein (0:28)

Really?

Jamie (0:28)

Yeah, it was a weird time, you know. It was a, it's a weird time. The, the world of medicine is interesting because you've got so many positives, right? Like people are healthier, they live longer today than they ever have been before. If you get certain diseases, they have cures for it that didn't exist before. But there's financial incentives involved in prescribing medications that maybe people don't fucking need because they can make more money if more people take these drugs. And that's the problem. Like there's, we've got to separate the baby from the bathwater and know what to throw out, right? And it's, you can't throw out medicine. Like that's crazy. It's amazing. Like what these pharmaceutical drug companies in coordination with all these brilliant scientists have created is the greatest medicine system the human race has ever known. At least probably, maybe the Mayans knew some shit. Like, you know what I mean?

Brandon Epstein (1:25)

They were doing some magic back then.

Jamie (1:26)

Yeah, maybe some like civilizations that collapsed because the Europeans gave them all fucking smallpox. Ironically, who knows what the Egyptians knew? You know, who knows what those people knew about health and about medicine? But what we know today is that there's incredible stuff that comes out of the pharmaceutical drug companies. But also, they fucking lie to you. Yeah, they also, they'll publish fake studies, or not fake studies, but they'll publish studies that they've engineered to be successful, even though they're not going to be. They'll hide data that shows that it causes side effects. They want to make money. And it's not the people that are making the medicine. That's what's crazy. Like the people that are making the medicine are fucking geniuses. It's the money people. It's always the money people in everything. And that's the same thing with YouTube, and that's the same thing with everything. It's the money people. And there's, when you have a giant corporation, you have like all kinds of stuff going on. But the number one thing that's going on is everybody has to make more money every quarter. And that's where it gets nutty.

Brandon Epstein (2:30)

Yeah, it does. And we also live in a culture that wants that like fast food experience, right?

Jamie (2:35)

Oh, yeah.

Brandon Epstein (2:36)

And so we're so susceptible to it.

Jamie (2:39)

Yeah.

Brandon Epstein (2:39)

For everything, for weight loss, to any issue you have.

Jamie (2:43)

We're experiencing it a little bit in the comedy community. Because, and this is, by the way, this is like a normal thing that happens to young comedians. They want to be further than they are. Maybe they think they deserve more than they're getting. They think they deserve more shows, better spots on shows. And it does happen. And then there's also, you know, like there's a competitive drive involved in it. So there's a little bit of delusion, a little bit of a competitive drive. It's very similar, I would imagine, to fighters. First of all, we just tell everybody, success code, you're a mind coach.

Brandon Epstein (3:16)

Yes, sir.

Jamie (3:16)

You worked famously with Sean Brady.

Brandon Epstein (3:19)

Yes.

Jamie (3:19)

Who I love.

Brandon Epstein (3:20)

Yeah, he's on here, talked about a little bit.

Jamie (3:22)

He's a fucking animal.

Brandon Epstein (3:23)

Yeah, I love that guy.

Jamie (3:24)

Whoo, he's fun. He's fun. And he's got like extra muscles on his back. I don't know what the fuck that guy does, but he looks like a turtle.

Brandon Epstein (3:31)

It's his tattoos coming to life.

Jamie (3:33)

We were all talking about it the other day. We're like, he looks like a turtle. Like he's got like a shell on his back. Just jacked muscle. Like I know what that is. Like when I see a guy like that, I'm like, that guy will squeeze your fucking face into jello.

Brandon Epstein (3:45)

Like he's scary.

Jamie (3:46)

He's so strong. And what he did to Leon Edwards was like, holy shit, man, that's a world champion. And to do it that decisively on a world champion, like he's completely turned a corner. He was always awesome. But he, post the Bilal fight, completely turned a corner. And a lot of that success, he attributes to you.