#2339 - Luis J. Gomez & Big Jay Oakerson

Big Jay Oakerson (0:01)

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.

Joe Rogan (0:03)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Big Jay Oakerson (0:06)

Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

Jamie (0:12)

Riding, running.

SPEAKER_5 (0:13)

Yeah, the ever-greater and thinner Big Jay Oakerson.

Jamie (0:17)

Thank you, Manjaro. Shout out, Manjaro.

SPEAKER_5 (0:19)

You're looking good, dude.

Jamie (0:20)

Big ups, Manjaro.

SPEAKER_5 (0:21)

It's nice to see, you know.

Jamie (0:23)

I am exercising, too.

SPEAKER_5 (0:25)

Beautiful.

Jamie (0:25)

You have to, or it will just be floppy and weird and gross.

SPEAKER_5 (0:28)

Or it will eat your bones.

Jamie (0:30)

I guess also, yes, it will eat your bones, they say. I am real big on taking this stuff and then not really following up with, like, you know what I mean? I just started doing testosterone from a company that is, like, you know, it is above board taking it, but, like, they are like, you should make sure you monitor your blood all the time. And I am like, yeah, we will get to that at some point. I am going to keep taking it, though.

SPEAKER_5 (0:52)

You don't monitor your blood at all?

Jamie (0:55)

No, not me with any regularity, I think.

SPEAKER_5 (0:56)

You should probably do that.

Jamie (0:58)

Yeah, they did it there. Someone I know says they take testosterone and they have to donate blood every month to get blood.

Because their blood is so thick.

SPEAKER_5 (1:06)

I talked to my doctor about it because it really doesn't make sense. But he has heard of occasions where people had to do that.

Jamie (1:13)

To unthicken their blood.

SPEAKER_5 (1:14)

Do you have too much blood or something? They are like, how much are you taking? What do you do? Are you going ham, bro?

Jamie (1:20)

This man's health company saw me coming down the road a mile away. They offered me... I am taking two peptides and I don't even know... We started.

SPEAKER_5 (1:26)

Sorry, we couldn't wait. Why don't you even ask me? I don't know. While you were on the door, I was like, this doesn't make sense. Let's just start.

Jamie (1:32)

I'm taking two peptides. They feel like fire. It feels like fire when I inject them.

SPEAKER_5 (1:36)

Really? What are they?

Jamie (1:38)

I don't know. The BPC-157. That's the one everyone's doing.

SPEAKER_5 (1:41)

Right. That's a good one.

Jamie (1:42)

And then something that's blue.

SPEAKER_5 (1:44)

It's blue. Oh, methylene blue?

Jamie (1:46)

I don't know. It burns.

SPEAKER_7 (1:47)

Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_6 (1:47)

Methylene, hold up.

SPEAKER_5 (1:49)

Methylene blue, you're not supposed to inject.

Jamie (1:51)

It's not that then.

SPEAKER_7 (1:52)

It's G.

Jamie (1:52)

It starts with a G. It's one of the letters. G-H.

SPEAKER_5 (1:55)

Methylene blue is weird stuff. It's a dye for like fabrics that people take for its health benefits.

Jamie (2:03)

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_5 (2:04)

Like boost mitochondria or something. Yeah, it's really weird. Like what exactly does it do? I should ask even though I take it.

I don't take it all the time, but I have taken it. And I don't know. I couldn't describe. I couldn't explain. Exactly. Here it is. A medication used in the management and treatment of... What's that word? Meth...

Jamie (2:28)

Oh, methamoglobulin.

SPEAKER_5 (2:30)

Methamoglobinemia. Methamoglobinemia. A condition where hemoglobin decreases its ability to carry oxygen.

Jamie (2:41)

Straight up.

SPEAKER_5 (2:42)

But it started out as a fabric dye, I'm pretty sure. Right? Doesn't it say that?

Jamie (2:49)

What is it, too, for humans?

SPEAKER_5 (2:51)

I think it was a dye. Which is so weird that a dye would have health benefits.

Jamie (2:58)

I grew up in a house of supplements. My stepfather was a power lifter, so I only know about creatine.

SPEAKER_6 (3:06)

That's it.

Jamie (3:07)

Creatinine was another one that would show up in the house sometimes.

SPEAKER_5 (3:10)

Creatinine?

Jamie (3:11)

Yeah.

SPEAKER_5 (3:12)

What's that?

Jamie (3:12)

I don't know.

SPEAKER_6 (3:13)

I think Jason can creatine twice, and he's just remembering it.

Jamie (3:16)

No, it was another word.

SPEAKER_5 (3:21)

Creatine is legit. That stuff is super good for you.

SPEAKER_6 (3:24)

I just started taking Tongat Ali for my testosterone.

SPEAKER_5 (3:28)

Creatinine is a waste product that forms from the breakdown of creatine in muscles.

Jamie (3:36)

Why would I take it?

SPEAKER_5 (3:37)

There's another natural one. I think it's called turkesterone.

SPEAKER_6 (3:42)

I know Shilajit is good for testosterone. There's a few in those. I asked my doctor to put me on testosterone. I think we talked about it, because you're like, dude, don't worry, fuck your doctor. I got a doctor for you. And I was just like, maybe I'll just stop smoking weed.