#2335 - Dr. Mary Talley Bowden

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience. All right, very nice to meet you.

Mary Talley Bowden (0:14)

Nice to meet you.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

I have, I saw you on the Danny Jones podcast, and I've read a lot of your tweets and Twitter, and just the entire ordeal that you've been through since the beginning of COVID. And so I felt like it could be very educational for people to hear your perspective.

Mary Talley Bowden (0:36)

Well, I appreciate you continuing to talk about COVID, because I think a lot of people are sick of it. I'm certainly ready to move on.

Joe Rogan (0:45)

I am, too, but it's just people need to make sure this doesn't happen again. Exactly.

Mary Talley Bowden (0:50)

And nothing's happened, really. Nothing's been corrected.

Joe Rogan (0:53)

No. Not only has nothing been corrected, I was just watching an argument on television where they were trying to argue for vaccinating women who are pregnant.

Mary Talley Bowden (1:03)

Oh, right. It's insane. I mean, there's a golden rule of pregnancy, right?

You don't experiment on pregnant women. You don't experiment on an unborn child.

Joe Rogan (1:14)

You're not even supposed to eat sushi.

Mary Talley Bowden (1:16)

Exactly. Right. But we're going to put this modified MRNA technology into these women who, you know, early treatment, we have early treatment. COVID is no longer a threat. We're dealing, you know, at one point it was more than a cold, but not now. Why in the world will we give them to pregnant women or children?

Joe Rogan (1:35)

The only thing that makes sense is money.

Mary Talley Bowden (1:37)

Right. Well, it's the only thing that makes sense.

Joe Rogan (1:40)

And ego, meaning because they've already recommended it because they don't want to admit that it's not effective. They don't want to admit their side effects.

Mary Talley Bowden (1:48)

I mean, we have we have hard facts showing it should be pulled off the market. I mean, any other product would have been pulled a long time ago. If this were an antibiotic and we'd seen all the the carnage from an antibiotic, it would have been yanked off long ago. It should have been yanked off in the first month. There's just there's no other explanation than there's just there's fraud, there's corruption, there's ego, there's money. But it's not science.

Joe Rogan (2:15)

No, and there's a lot of people that for whatever reason, they have this very rigid ideology that the pharmaceutical drug companies are to be trusted. And we should trust the science and that all these organizations, whether it's the FDA or whatever it is that's connected to these assertions, they should be trusted, not just the average doctor who's talking about these side effects and all these different things that they're experiencing with their patients.

Mary Talley Bowden (2:44)

Yeah, I mean, I trusted them when the pandemic started. I didn't think that the shots would work necessarily, but I trusted them. I didn't think they were going to hurt us.

Joe Rogan (2:53)

Why didn't you think they would work?

Mary Talley Bowden (2:55)

Because they were rushed to the market. I knew the flu shots were already iffy. We're dealing with a virus that mutates. We've never been able to vaccinate against a cold, which, you know, it's a rapidly mutating virus. It's been tried before, and it's failed.

Joe Rogan (3:11)

If you don't mind, please tell everybody what your background is in medicine.

Mary Talley Bowden (3:17)

Yeah, private practice, solo physician. I'm not head of the Mayo Clinic. I'm just a neighborhood ear, nose, and throat doctor that sort of got tangled up in this inadvertently. And I always thought when the pandemic started, I thought, well, this will be the hospital. This will be a chaos in the hospitals. I never envisioned getting wrapped up in this at all.

I trained at Stanford, and then I moved to Texas after residency. And then I worked in a small private practice for seven, eight years. Then I started having a bunch of children, and I pretty much gave up medicine. I took a seven-year sabbatical. I wasn't even sure I was going to go back. But then I just had this itch that needed to be scratched. And I opened up a solo practice six months before the pandemic started.

Joe Rogan (4:06)

Oh, boy. What timing.

Mary Talley Bowden (4:07)

I know. Why? Why did I do it?

Joe Rogan (4:11)

You could have been out.

Mary Talley Bowden (4:12)

I know.

Joe Rogan (4:13)

Yeah. Well, sometimes the universe has a calling for people.

Mary Talley Bowden (4:18)

You know, it's been a very interesting journey.