#2316 - Cameron Hanes

Cameron Hanes (0:03)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

SPEAKER_3 (0:06)

Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

Cameron Hanes (0:12)

How's it going on? Not much. Hello, Joe Rogan.

Cameron Hanes (0:15)

Hello, Cameron Hanes.

Cameron Hanes (0:17)

Welcome to the podcast.

Cameron Hanes (0:18)

Thank you. This is my first time trying one of these new energy drinks that Black Rifle came out of. Have you tried them? I have. They're legit?

Cameron Hanes (0:25)

Really good.

Cameron Hanes (0:25)

Everything they do is legit.

Cameron Hanes (0:26)

Yeah, really good. What do you think?

Cameron Hanes (0:31)

So this is the part of the podcast where I try to talk you out of running a 250-mile race with a broken foot. You fucking maniac.

Cameron Hanes (0:38)

We're talking about my book. This is the whole point of this was Undeniable is out.

Cameron Hanes (0:45)

Well, you'll definitely be undeniable if you run 250 miles with a broken foot.

Cameron Hanes (0:50)

Yeah, it's a...

Cameron Hanes (0:52)

Why are you doing that? That seems like not a good idea. But what am I, a doctor?

Cameron Hanes (0:57)

Okay, so real talk, let's just... We'll break it down. So, if I was a professional athlete in my prime, right? It would obviously make sense to say, I need to get surgery, my foot's broke, I can't perform, whatever. But since I'm... We know how old I am, almost 60, it's just like, there's no guarantees. I'm like, if I can fight this off and still whatever, still perform, then I'm going to do that.

Cameron Hanes (1:25)

Wow.

Cameron Hanes (1:27)

I can't afford to play the long game, can I?

Cameron Hanes (1:31)

Fix your foot. It's like, I don't understand. Like, this is what I've always said with people, with jujitsu injuries, because I've had a bunch of surgeries.

Cameron Hanes (1:37)

Yeah.

Cameron Hanes (1:37)

Just fix it. Just do it. Because a day will be a week, will be a month, it'll happen so quick, before you know it'll be six months, you're back in the gym. Just do it. That's what I always tell everybody. Just fix it.

Cameron Hanes (1:49)

Yeah.

Cameron Hanes (1:49)

I just bite the bullet, get the cert, like there's certain things like, certain things I don't think you should get surgery for. Because there's things that you could rehabilitate. And there's sort of an, there's some doctors, I want to be real careful about this, because a lot of doctors are very cautious about whether or not to do surgery. But there's some doctors that are just a little too excited to cut people open and stitch them back together again.

Cameron Hanes (2:12)

Well, it's how they make their money.

Cameron Hanes (2:13)

It's how they make their money. And famously, I've talked about it too many times, but for people who haven't heard the story, my doctor told me, for sure, you're going to need shoulder surgery. You're going to have to get shoulder surgery. It's just a matter of when, and if you put it off, it'll probably get worse. I have zero problem with that shoulder now. I got stem cells in it from Rodney McGee in Vegas. You went with me to that place. Went back in six months. He's like, the tear is completely gone. So I could have gone under the knife, and maybe he would have done a great job and fixed it. Apparently, he did the Lakers and a bunch of pro athletes and everything like that, but they don't entertain the possibility that there's other ways to fix things. But when it comes to broken bones and torn ligaments, like if your ligaments, like I have a bunch of friends who have ACL tears, complete ACL tears, no ACL, and they still do jujitsu. I'm like, dude, you're just grinding up your meniscus, the shit that you're going to need for the rest of your life. And take it from me, a 57-year-old man who loves jujitsu. You can't do that. You need that stuff.

Like, that stuff's going to go away and then it'll be bone on bone. And then you're going to be like in agony all the time.

Cameron Hanes (3:19)

Yeah. Theoretically.

Cameron Hanes (3:21)

Theoretically. Just get it fixed. I always say just get it fixed. Get it fixed before you know it will be fixed.

Cameron Hanes (3:26)

Yeah, but I keep thinking about it. So if I would have done it. So I broke it last June. But all the things I did from last June to now, I've got accomplished, still got it done, made it happen. Yeah, it hasn't been that fun.

Cameron Hanes (3:39)