#2313 - Jillian Michaels

Joe Rogan (0:01)

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Jillian Michaels (0:14)

You too.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

We were just talking about boomers, about parents that they don't want to believe anything other than what they're getting from the news.

Jillian Michaels (0:24)

It's been a challenge. My dad is an absolute lost cause. My mom is now open to the conversation, and she'll send me a bunch of different articles, and then she'll allow me to disseminate from my perspective. But it's been a rough ride.

Joe Rogan (0:41)

Yeah, I've got them on peptides now, which is nice.

Jillian Michaels (0:44)

Same.

Joe Rogan (0:45)

And I've got my stepdad on testosterone replacement, which is nice, and he's seeing benefits of those things. So it's like they're slowly starting to incorporate some of these things, but their whole life, they've been told that the doctor knows everything and that the news is always correct and anything contrary to the news is bullshit.

Jillian Michaels (1:04)

But arguably, when our parents were our age, it was reliable.

Joe Rogan (1:11)

I don't think so.

Jillian Michaels (1:12)

No.

Joe Rogan (1:12)

No, I think it's always been compromised. I just think there was no alternatives.

Jillian Michaels (1:16)

That's interesting.

Joe Rogan (1:17)

Yeah, that's what I think.

Jillian Michaels (1:18)

My mom is a psychoanalyst, PhD. This is a very educated, thoughtful woman. And...

Joe Rogan (1:25)

Sometimes that's the worst.

Jillian Michaels (1:26)

No, no, she's... I would argue against in this case. I do appreciate people who see flaws in psychoanalysis, but I've learned a huge amount from my mom in this area. And she also... She majored in journalism before changing careers to psychoanalysis. And so for her to even wrap her head around the fact that journalism can be compromised is almost inconceivable.

Joe Rogan (1:50)

Right.

I didn't mean psychoanalysis is bad. What I meant is that a lot of times educated people defer to other educated people. Like they're an expert in their field. So they assume that all the other experts in their field are also correct. And any heretic is just a fool.

Jillian Michaels (2:07)

I would happen to agree with that point. Yeah.

Yeah. That's why we were talking about Fauci on the way in, and both of my parents could arguably canonize the guy. Or now I think I've broken through with my mom, but it has taken me since, since your episode with Brett Weinstein in March of 2020 I have been working on it. We're getting there, though.

SPEAKER_4 (2:31)

We're there. Like, we are there. It's been five years.

Joe Rogan (2:35)

Isn't that crazy that was five years ago?

SPEAKER_4 (2:37)

It was like yesterday.

Jillian Michaels (2:38)

I'll never forget it.

Joe Rogan (2:39)

Five years ago. And I remember when that episode came out, people were freaking out, like, what are you doing? What is Brett doing? This is bullshit. You're going to get us all killed.

Jillian Michaels (2:47)

It made perfect sense to me.

Joe Rogan (2:49)

Well, he was right, clearly. And yet, still, no apologies, no corrections, except the government website. The COVID-19 website is now up, and this has to be because of Bobby Kennedy.

Jillian Michaels (3:00)

Hey, I mean, The New York Times was like, oh, looks like this came from a lab. It's like, really?

Joe Rogan (3:06)

Well, the best part about it was they were like, we were misled. Yeah, you were misled by you, you fuckers.

Jillian Michaels (3:11)

I know.

Joe Rogan (3:12)

You did it. You did it.

SPEAKER_4 (3:13)

It's disgusting.

Jillian Michaels (3:14)

And there are zero apologies, zero course corrections, and they unveil this information as though they are the purveyors of truth.

SPEAKER_4 (3:24)

Guys, we got a headline.

Jillian Michaels (3:25)

You're a little late.

SPEAKER_4 (3:26)

This came from a lab.

Joe Rogan (3:27)

You're a half a decade late. That's right. You know what's really interesting? We've been talking about this a lot lately, that imagine if the roles were reversed and if podcasters were the ones yelling at everybody to go out and take these experimental shots. And then they were experiencing all these complications and all these side effects. Mainstream news would be chastising us. Like, how dare you give people the advice to go out and do that? You're responsible for these people having all these side effects and all these unnecessary deaths and all these people that would have had no problem with COVID. You encourage them to take this vaccine and they had strokes and they had this and they had that. They'd be calling for us to get shut down.