#2304 - Gary Brecka

**Joe Rogan** (0:03)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Gary Brecka** (0:06)
Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

**Joe Rogan** (0:13)
Good to see you, my friend.

**Gary Brecka** (0:15)
Wow, that was fast. Good to see you too, brother.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:17)
We just go right into it.

**Gary Brecka** (0:18)
It's like sit down and roll. You got notes, dude.

**Joe Rogan** (0:19)
You're organized. You're a rare guest.

**Gary Brecka** (0:21)
I actually, you know what? I normally don't bring notes, but I was talking to Cali Means on the way over here, and we're really supporting Bobby Kennedy's whole ma-ha movement and trying to officially put a committee together to really give him some great talking points and then bring some of the big influencers together to help him message around the media. I was like, what are some of the wins that we've had in the last week that I don't know about? So he just rattled them off and I just jotted them down.

**Joe Rogan** (0:46)
What are the wins?

**Gary Brecka** (0:47)
Well, I mean, so Trump formed this Strong Kids Commission and if you remember when he first got into office, he actually, by executive order, he authorized Bobby to do a study with Health and Human Services to look into the genesis of chronic disease because nobody's talking about it, the National Institute of Health or National Library of Medicine or in our public health policy, nobody's talking about what's causing this pandemic.

**Joe Rogan** (1:14)
Gee, I wonder why they're not talking about it.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:16)
Well, I could give you a couple of, I could give you a couple of clues. Do you think money has anything to do with it?

**Joe Rogan** (1:21)
No way.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:22)
You're a conspiracy theorist, dude. You're down the rabbit hole.

**Joe Rogan** (1:24)
That's my problem.

**Gary Brecka** (1:25)
You think that just because people get paid, they do things that are shady.

**Joe Rogan** (1:29)
Yeah, I know. That's a weird thing to think. I should stop thinking that way.

**Gary Brecka** (1:32)
Yeah. I mean, we make $110 billion a year on Type 2 diabetes. They're trying to put that out of business for sure.

**Joe Rogan** (1:38)
Yeah, they don't want that money.

**Gary Brecka** (1:39)
No, no, no. They're like, hey, Stan, how do we get this off the balance sheet, bro? How do we get rid of it? This is stinking up the place.

**Joe Rogan** (1:44)
There's a business that relies on people being so disgusting that they get Type 2 diabetes. So bad with their diet, just eating pie and drinking soda to their body just starts to cave in.

**Gary Brecka** (1:58)
Yeah. But don't worry, we got-

**Joe Rogan** (1:59)
That's worth how much a year?

**Gary Brecka** (2:01)
$110 billion, Type 2 diabetes alone.

**Joe Rogan** (2:03)
That's not a lot of money. That would change anybody's opinions on things.

**Gary Brecka** (2:06)
Well, I mean, a lot of people could live on that.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:08)
There's a lot of people that could live on that.

**Joe Rogan** (2:12)
Isn't that funny? A lot of people could live on what's killing other people. Isn't that funny? A lot of people are buying yachts on what is killing people. Wild.

**Gary Brecka** (2:21)
The interesting thing is, look at our food stamp program, which is the SNAP program, which is one of the biggest subsidies that we have in the government, $120 billion a year. Ten billion of that is going to subsidize sodas.

**Joe Rogan** (2:35)
Well, they need soda. It's a part of the food pyramid, I think.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:40)
Isn't it in there? It's right up there with Lucky Charms, right?

**Joe Rogan** (2:42)
Yeah, Lucky Charms is right above ground beef.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:45)
Yeah, and grass-fed steak.

**Gary Brecka** (2:46)
And then you get to the top and you got soda. So it's just phenomenal. And then the American Heart Association just ironically comes out in favor of soda in the SNAP food program.

**Joe Rogan** (2:59)
We went over that and we found out that they're paid by Pepsi and by Coca-Cola. Wow. It's just so dark.
It's so crazy. The American Heart Association gets money from Coca-Cola and Pepsi.

**Gary Brecka** (3:13)
Yeah, you know, I checked in to my Airbnb here in Austin, which by the way, love Austin, man. I see why you came here. We covered it all on my podcast, so I won't go down that rabbit hole. But it truly is, man. People are amazing. Food is amazing. Went to this little restaurant called The Well, which I love, and they catered all my food. But there's like a serious wellness vibe here. But I checked-