#2294 - Dr. Suzanne Humphries

Joe Rogan (0:03)

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Joe Rogan (0:14)

You just said something that's like very important. You can't be dogmatic when you talk about vaccines, or about anything.

Suzanne Humphries (0:21)

Yes, it is good to keep an open mind, isn't it, and be flexible and look at a 360 degree view of things rather than your tunnel vision and what you're indoctrinated into, isn't it?

Joe Rogan (0:31)

Yeah, and especially if you know that that indoctrination has been on purpose and profitable. One of the great things about your book is, first of all, your book is called Dissolving Illusions. I know I've talked about it on the podcast a bunch of times, but you also highlight a lot of things that we know are beneficial that somehow or another get lumped into nonsense, like even cinnamon.

Suzanne Humphries (1:01)

Yeah, cinnamon is a powerful herb, actually, and it's known to be helpful in glucose handling. For a lot of diabetics taking it in capsule form now. I noticed at the end of my nephrology career that a lot of my own patients were taking cinnamon capsules, but it also has a lot of vitamin C in it, and I think that was probably one of the keys. A lot of those old remedies that we wrote about, the magic in them, probably was the vitamin C in them.

Joe Rogan (1:27)

I dismissed all that stuff as total nonsense. I was like, oh, that's hippie nonsense, like echinacea. Get out of here. It's hippie nonsense. Garlic. Come on, get out of here. But then the more I've read things, especially like garlic is incredible for staph infections for some reason.

Suzanne Humphries (1:45)

It is. And it doesn't develop drug resistance like a lot of the drugs that are engineered for it. Yeah, the hippies seem to have got it right, I think.

Joe Rogan (1:54)

Well, it just that whole idea of natural remedies is so just universally dismissed by non-silly people. You know, when you say natural remedies, that's great. If you have a heart attack, go to a doctor, stupid. You know, that's generally people's appeal to authority.

Suzanne Humphries (2:12)

Right.

Joe Rogan (2:13)

But the doctor should be recommending those things too. Like they're good too. Like vitamin D, super important. You know, vitamin A, super important. And one of the things that you talked about in the book is that I think this is really important. When you're talking about the measles vaccine, you were saying that either if you get an infection with measles, just a natural infection, or if you get the vaccine, you're still going to get depleted of vitamin A. Like if you get vaccinated for the measles, you should be taking vitamin A as well.

Your body is going to get depleted just by getting that shot. They don't tell you that.

Suzanne Humphries (2:50)

No. They don't tell you anything. Just Tylenol, which actually makes the vaccine not work as well, in addition to causing all kinds of immunological disturbances at the time that you're supposed to be upregulating your immune system against this dreaded disease. Yeah. But one of the things about the recommended by the white coats and the authorities is that the public believes that so many drugs and remedies are standardized, that the conventional medical system gives out. And when you go to actually look at them, and this includes vaccines, even though they're standardized, meaning that the manufacturers are told what the regulation should be in terms of production, when people go and look at them, they find it's anything but standardized. It's very variable, which is why we see such variability in the results when people receive them. That's only one reason why there's so much variability.

Joe Rogan (3:42)

And do you think it's the immunity to any legal consequences that has allowed them to sort of operate like this?

Suzanne Humphries (3:51)

Well, we certainly saw an explosion of their creativity since 1986 So actually in 1986, you're referring to the National Child Vaccine Injury Act that was passed in 1986, but before 1986, we had 1976, which was the swine flu vaccine fiasco.

And that was a situation where there was so much injury that the vaccine-producing companies were no longer able to get insurance. And so they went to the government and they said, we need you to indemnify us. And they did. And so the government absorbed all the lawsuit cases that happened as a result of the Guillain-Barre that happened from then. And so that kind of set a precedent for 1986 So back then, vaccines were just kind of pieces of microbe, or maybe a live, attenuated virus. And then they would put a background of all kinds of horrid things inside of it and tell you it was just a clear, beautiful, pure solution. But that's beside the point. So then 1986 comes along, and because there's so many lawsuits happening because of the diphtheria pertussis tetanus vaccine, that again, the vaccine companies couldn't continue to go on the way they were because they were being sued so much. So then this horrible act was passed, which to some people seemed like a good idea. And this is always how it goes. We're going to make you this promise, yes, yes, yes, we're going to cover all the lawsuits now out of taxes, but it's going to be okay because we're going to pay out these lawsuits and you're going to be fine. If your kid takes one for the team, you're going to be okay. And what happens is after time, after they get their foot in the door, they narrowed down the, they basically have a kangaroo court that decides if you're eligible. And so the qualification tables got narrowed down because in the beginning they were paying out so much of this. So not only did it make the vaccine companies very, very wealthy and indemnify, but as you alluded to just a minute ago, the creativity of the vaccine companies expanded. So after that, they could add different, what we call adjuvants, things that stimulate the immune system so the vaccine works better. Then they start, that's why we're able to be in a messenger RNA vaccine situation today, which that wouldn't have happened if it weren't for this indemnification that, you know, the vaccine trials have always been a bit of a joke, but they're even more of a joke today than they were in the beginning. I mean, we've never seen a vaccinated, unvaccinated study that is accepted by the powers that be as good enough. The vaccinated, unvaccinated studies that they have, they use another vaccine for, you probably know that. So if you're testing a measles vaccine, you could test it against a diphtheria vaccine, or a flu shot vaccine is tested against a hepatitis A vaccine. There's no saline placebo, because the few studies that exist with saline placebos show how bad the vaccine actually is, and how it makes you not only not respond to the disease when it comes around, but more susceptible to it in many cases.