#2285 - Andrew Schulz

Andrew Schulz (0:01)

Joe Rogan podcast, checking out The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan (0:06)

Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

Joe Rogan (0:13)

Opris, doing an episode on psychedelics.

Andrew Schulz (0:15)

God bless.

Joe Rogan (0:16)

How about that?

Andrew Schulz (0:17)

God bless.

Joe Rogan (0:17)

That means she's definitely done it.

Joe Rogan (0:19)

Yeah, you don't do a fucking, are we rolling yet? Are we rolling? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, you don't do an episode on psychedelics unless you fucking visited the Maya.

SPEAKER_5 (0:29)

Unless you dabbled.

Joe Rogan (0:30)

Unless you got in there.

Andrew Schulz (0:31)

You think it's ayahuasca or mushrooms?

Joe Rogan (0:33)

Most of those fancy people like to do the ayahuasca.

SPEAKER_5 (0:36)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:36)

You know, because then you can claim spirituality above all other people.

Andrew Schulz (0:41)

Oh, you think there's like a pretentiousness?

Joe Rogan (0:43)

Oh, 100%. There's a, I've done it. I've done it.

I've experienced the mother God.

Andrew Schulz (0:50)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:51)

The God. Yeah. I've experienced Gaia. It's like, I think people do really do experience that, but also there's a certain type of personality that wants to let you know that they're enlightened.

Andrew Schulz (1:06)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:07)

They're further down the road than you, Andrew.

Andrew Schulz (1:09)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:11)

And like one way to get like instant street cred in the psychedelics world is to say you do ayahuasca.

Andrew Schulz (1:17)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:17)

You know, if you do mushrooms, you might just be some asshole at a party. You know, you and your friends are just fucking giggling nonstop on the couch. It could be that.

Andrew Schulz (1:24)

There's no points in mushrooms.

Joe Rogan (1:25)

Right. You don't get points for that. You can say you took a heroic dose. You'll get points amongst the learned.

Andrew Schulz (1:32)

Yeah. But the casuals don't get fucked.

Joe Rogan (1:34)

The casuals don't get fucked.

Andrew Schulz (1:35)

You do ayahuasca, we're going to pay attention a little bit.

Joe Rogan (1:37)

Yeah. The casuals are going to go, why did you eat eight grams?

Andrew Schulz (1:39)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:39)

That seems crazy. But the other people are going to go, whoa, what was that like?

Andrew Schulz (1:43)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:44)

Oh, my Oprah's out here.

Andrew Schulz (1:46)

Oprah's out here pushing it. I wonder if it's like a...

Joe Rogan (1:51)

I mean, is that my friend Mark Bell's page, Mark Smelly Bell? And he said, what fucking year are we living in? Like, what is happening here? What's going on?

Andrew Schulz (2:03)

Yeah. I wonder if the ayahuasca thing is for some like a quick fix. You know, they're looking for like immediate life change.

Joe Rogan (2:10)

Oh, yeah, for sure. And also, sometimes your life has been such a colossal series of failures that you want like some symbolic reset.

Andrew Schulz (2:21)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:21)

And probably there's a lot of value in like a real like a like set and setting like a ritual.

Andrew Schulz (2:29)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:29)

Like I'm a new person. Yes. Maybe that bullshit will give you some momentum for real to kind of get on the right track.

Andrew Schulz (2:38)

I was talking to Neil about this. You know, Brennan, you know, he he he did it.

Joe Rogan (2:42)

He's done a lot.

Andrew Schulz (2:42)

He's done. Yeah, because he's trying.

Joe Rogan (2:44)

Yeah.

Andrew Schulz (2:45)

He was really battling.

Joe Rogan (2:45)

He needs to get off that vegan diet.

Andrew Schulz (2:47)

Yeah, maybe that's it. What if it's just chicken is all he needs?

SPEAKER_7 (2:51)

It's a rib eye down in Costa Rica, licking toads.

Joe Rogan (2:54)

And for real, if I had that dude over my house and cooked him some elk steak, I'll change his fucking life. If you make an agreement, just eat this with me.

Andrew Schulz (3:04)

He takes one bite and he's like, I am worthy.

SPEAKER_5 (3:07)

Yeah.

SPEAKER_6 (3:10)

But I think he was talking about it.

Andrew Schulz (3:11)

And then like and he was, you know, you know, one of his like superpowers is his like cynicism, right? And it's really debilitating. And I tell him to this all the time. But like, it's also amazing because he's like hyper aware of what the most negative thing could be.

Joe Rogan (3:24)

Right. So for joke writing, it's amazing.

Andrew Schulz (3:26)

It's it's like he's constantly wondering, like, what would his biggest hater think? I actually think it was it was one of the reasons why I should tell those so successful, because it's like to create things, you need to be super confident. You need to not worry about who's going to criticize you.