#2258 - Steven Rinella

Joe Rogan (0:01)

Joe Rogan Podcast, checking out The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan (0:06)

Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

Joe Rogan (0:13)

Steve Rinella.

Steven Rinella (0:14)

That was a long exhale.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

I needed one.

Steven Rinella (0:17)

Is this Trump's chair?

Joe Rogan (0:18)

He sat in that chair, yeah.

Steven Rinella (0:21)

I want to soak up some of the tenacity, man.

Joe Rogan (0:24)

He's got a lot of that.

Steven Rinella (0:26)

It took me a long time, man. And it took me a long time to see it. I remember people would talk, there was this thing when he emerged on the scene, it was a thing about toughness. And I'd always defined, in my mind, toughness was being able to go through some alder-choked hell hole real fast or hike up a hill. So I was like, that's not tough. And then later I was like, oh.

Joe Rogan (0:49)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:50)

Rental toughness.

Steven Rinella (0:52)

That kind of tough, man.

Joe Rogan (0:53)

I'm thinking about what that guy went through. I mean, he had the entire media, the entire justice system, he had the deep state, the Central Intelligence Agency, he had all these people, like, conspiring to take him out. Literally an assassination attempt, and then another one, in and out of the news in no time. Nobody cared. No grace period.

They waited about a day, and then they started talking shit about him again.

Steven Rinella (1:19)

That thing is out of, when I looked at, like, now that I've come to understand it better, I'm like, like, the fact that most people would crawl into a hole.

Joe Rogan (1:30)

Yeah.

Steven Rinella (1:30)

You know, after, well, I got a buddy, I don't want to say who it is, but he had sold his business, and he told me, he goes, well, when I sell my business, I'm going to crawl into a deep, dark hole. And later he's kind of back out and bought another business, and I said, what about crawling into the deep, dark hole? And he said, well, I did, but my wife was in there.

He goes, I have to get back, I'm not ready yet. I got to get back out.

Joe Rogan (1:57)

People, I think that's like these sort of fictional depictions of the future, that, you know, everybody wants this future where, you know, you're just holding hands and walking off into the sunset, the golden years. It's all bullshit. If you're alive, you're going to want to do the same things you're doing right now. You're not going to have some point in your life where you're going to want to do nothing and be happy that you don't have to do anything. You're going to get depressed.

Steven Rinella (2:23)

Yeah, I think about it. But my wife's smart enough to worry about what had happened to us if we didn't have, like, you know, dragons to slay.

Joe Rogan (2:30)

Yeah.

Steven Rinella (2:30)

You know, she feels that it might be essential.

Joe Rogan (2:33)

It's essential for life. You need puzzle. You need at least some sort of a very involving hobby. You need something. I mean, you can retire from, if you have a lot of money, you could retire from your financial pursuits. But you need something that you enjoy doing. Human beings need tasks. If you don't have something, you get very dull. And that's how people get Alzheimer's. They just fucking get dementia. They just, like, sit around the house and their brain atrophies, and then they just die.

Steven Rinella (3:04)

Yeah. I look at people like that, and, you know, part of looking at, well, Biden and Trump would be at that age, like, I plan on at that age to be, like, really kicking it. Just screwing around outside.

Joe Rogan (3:22)

Yeah, just having fun.

Steven Rinella (3:22)

But that just thing, like, to perform to the bitter end, man.

Joe Rogan (3:27)

Well, Biden is not performing.

Steven Rinella (3:29)

Trying to perform to the bitter end. Whatever he's doing is strange. Yeah, trying to keep at it.

Joe Rogan (3:34)

I think he's getting propped up. I think there's other people that are, like, pushing him towards the, get out there, come on. I think Jill's got her hands on his lower back.

Steven Rinella (3:43)

Just giving a push.

Joe Rogan (3:44)

Get out there, come on, you can win again. The thing are, could have beaten Trump. Yeah, it's, but it's that thing, too, where people, oh, one day you'll get to a certain age and you'll, like, you know, I'm 57 and nice to think, oh, when I'm 57, I'll be done. If I have some money, I'm just going to relax. Yeah, that's nonsense. I don't want to relax.