#2254 - Mel Gibson

Joe Rogan (0:03)

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

Joe Rogan (0:13)

What's cracking?

Mel Gibson (0:14)

Oh, man, my back just now, it's just fantastic.

Joe Rogan (0:18)

What is going on with your back? You have, like, you've had back issues in the past, right? We talked about that the last time you came on.

Mel Gibson (0:24)

Well, I was born scoliotic, you know?

Joe Rogan (0:26)

Yeah.

Mel Gibson (0:27)

So, it's like, I just bought my own pen along so I could click the shit. Here, take all the vices away from me.

Joe Rogan (0:36)

I can't believe you remember. You remember clicking on the pen?

Mel Gibson (0:42)

That's hilarious. Oh, yeah. I'm a fidget, you know? So, let me take everything off.

It's not good. Oh, yeah. Born slightly scoliotic. And then, of course, I banged myself up over the years, you know?

Joe Rogan (0:57)

Of course. What can you do? Do they do anything other than surgery for people with scoliosis?

Mel Gibson (1:02)

They do, because I don't want to do surgery. Once you start opening stuff up and fooling with it, there's no going back.

Joe Rogan (1:09)

Especially the back.

Mel Gibson (1:10)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:10)

Backs are rough. I've never met anybody that had, like, fusions or anything where it turned out good.

Mel Gibson (1:15)

No. And like Hippocrates, you know, the father of medicine, he said, in any ailment, look first to the spine.

And it was like, he's kind of right. It emanates from the, from the core.

Joe Rogan (1:27)

Well, if your back is fucked up, everything's fucked up. You know, no matter how strong your arms and legs are, if your back is fucked up, you're in trouble.

Mel Gibson (1:34)

Yeah, that's true. Your brain. Everything. Everything goes to hell.

Joe Rogan (1:37)

Well, you're in pain all the time. People with back problems, like, they can't think straight because you're always like, ugh.

Joe Rogan (1:43)

You know, it's always...

Mel Gibson (1:44)

There's a gift to not thinking straight. Hmm.

Joe Rogan (1:47)

Tell me.

Joe Rogan (1:48)

Tell me more. I want to know.

Mel Gibson (1:49)

Well, it actually takes you down some pretty weird paths. You know, if you're happy all the time, I don't know, you don't have to strive to find thoughts to make yourself happy.

Joe Rogan (2:02)

Right.

Mel Gibson (2:03)

So it's like, it's a good predisposition, I think.

Joe Rogan (2:09)

I agree to that.

Joe Rogan (2:10)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:10)

I think being happy all the time is... It's kind of an unlikely scenario.

Mel Gibson (2:16)

No, nobody is.

Joe Rogan (2:17)

Yeah.

Mel Gibson (2:18)

No. But we all want it. You notice we all yearn for it. That's the only thing we all want, right?

Joe Rogan (2:23)

Right.

Mel Gibson (2:24)

Just happiness. Little peace.

Joe Rogan (2:26)

Well, it's also we're shown it, like in television, movies, we're shown happiness as this goal. Like, seek happiness.

Mel Gibson (2:36)

Sure.

Joe Rogan (2:36)

Should be happy all the time. Happy. Should never be upset.

Mel Gibson (2:40)

Yeah. Well.

Joe Rogan (2:41)

It's not realistic.

Mel Gibson (2:43)

It's completely unrealistic. However, it's nice to have those little journeys through art where you can actually explore those things. You can explore your ids. You can explore happiness. And so you can experience the opposite. I look at situations around me and I generally feel pretty grateful from what some people go through. Sure. And everybody's got their crap, you know. But like this morning, for example, I would be surprised if my home is still there.

Joe Rogan (3:15)

Yeah, we were just talking about that. The Palisades is on fire.

Mel Gibson (3:19)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:20)

My friend Tom, Tom Segura, his house is gone.

Mel Gibson (3:22)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:23)

It was where he used to live.

Joe Rogan (3:24)

He sold it, luckily.

Mel Gibson (3:25)

Yeah, I have a son. He's in a sort of volunteer fire brigade, Milo. I call him the mayor of Malibu. And he's running around. I asked him, how's things looking there, Milo? He says, not good, pops. He says, you're in neighborhood. And he sent me a video of my neighborhood. And it's in flames. It looks like an inferno.

Joe Rogan (3:45)

You think this will get you out of California finally?

Mel Gibson (3:47)

Yeah, maybe.

Joe Rogan (3:48)

Where are you going to go?

Mel Gibson (3:49)

Oh, I don't know. I got a place in Costa Rica. I love it there.

Joe Rogan (3:53)

Costa Rica is nice.