#2251 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

Rick Perry (0:01)

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Joe Rogan (0:12)

Governor Perry, thank you very much for being here. It's a pleasure and honor to meet you. And Brian, would you explain your relationship and how you guys know each other?

W. Bryan Hubbard (0:22)

I had a public service career in the state of Kentucky, and the last stint of it involved my role as the Chairman and Executive Director of the Kentucky Opioid Abatement Advisory Commission. Within that role, I designed for what, by lack of better term, was the Kentucky Abagade Initiative. The state had received $842 million in settlements that will be paid out over the next 15 years by opioid distributors and manufacturers for their role in the creation and perpetuation of the opioid epidemic. And as the Kentucky Abagade Project was developed and executed, I was introduced to Governor Perry as someone who was a believer and advocate in the medicine. He and I developed a professional relationship. He was a vocal supporter and participant in the initiative itself. He appeared by video to give a testimonial about the immense potential around the development of Ibogaine. And he also was so wonderfully helpful as to procure an op-ed in Newsweek Magazine in October of last year, endorsing the initiative. He has been a tremendous supporter, mentor, and I am privileged to call him.

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Joe Rogan (3:09)

And Governor, how did you get involved in this?

Rick Perry (3:12)

It's kind of a long story, so we got the time, if you don't mind, I'll just take you back. 2006, my wife made me go on vacation, which I don't necessarily do very good, because I have a little bit of ADHD, and vacations are sitting on the beach. Someplace is not high on my list of good things to do. But anyway, I went with her, and she took me to Carnata Island and the Hotel Dell, which is a fascinatingly interesting place. But my security detail went out early, and they were stopped there, I think, on Orange, and Orange Drive, the little breakfast nook, and they walked in where they were supposed to meet the California Highway Patrol to do our advance, and there was this big guy that looked about like you, all buff and slicked off head, and pretty healthy looking boy, and they thought that was the patrol when they were supposed to meet. They went over, introduced themselves, and said, are you here to meet Governor Perry? And the guy went, no, but I vote for him every chance I get. And this kid happened to be a JTAC with SEAL Team 5, who was a former, or was an F-18 driver, who was assigned to SEAL Team 5 to go out on their next assignment. And they just met him by the grace of God. And the kid gave him his card and said, hey, if the governor would like to go on a tour of the Special Warfare, the Special Warfare Center would love to give him a tour. Well, the detail shows up next day, says, hey, we met this kid, and that's right down my alley, right? Rather than sitting on the beach, take me over and show me what the Special Warfare Center does. And on Saturday morning, we went over, got that tour, and this young man led the tour, and he had a big old tall drink of water with him in his camis that assisted with the tour. Took about three hours to finish this tour. We finish it, and this young man says, did Marcus tell you where he was last weekend? I said, no. He said, yes, sir, once, and no, sir, once. He said, well, he was at the White House receiving the Navy Cross. Well, I know what the Navy Cross is, and I went back to the hotel room, looked it up on my computer. There's no mention of this Marcus Luttrell anywhere on my computer.