#2246 - James Fox

**Joe Rogan** (0:00)
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**Jamie Vernon** (2:41)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Joe Rogan** (2:49)
It's a very good time to have a UFO expert in.

**James Fox** (2:53)
A lot has been going on.

**Joe Rogan** (2:56)
This is, you know, I had, I know you ran into him. I had Ryan Graves on yesterday.

**James Fox** (3:01)
Oh my God. I'll tell you the funniest story about how I ran into him.

**Joe Rogan** (3:03)
You ran into him in the lobby of the hotel, right?

**James Fox** (3:05)
So the lobby told me, they were all, don't use this one elevator. It's really rickety and it makes a lot of noise and it's just, it's not very reliable and just don't use it. So I didn't. And then I was leaving 24 hours later to come down and get some coffee. And I was like, fine, let me take the rickety elevator. I was like, they told me not to take it, but I'm going to take it anyway. So I pushed the button. I'm standing there, I hear this, the door's open. I look, I see this shadowy figure of the corner. I'm like, Ryan Graves, what are you doing? He goes, I don't know. What are you doing? I was like, are you doing what I think you're doing?

**SPEAKER_5** (3:36)
He goes, yeah.

**SPEAKER_6** (3:38)
Did he tell you that?

**SPEAKER_5** (3:40)
Did he tell you that?

**Joe Rogan** (3:41)
Yes, he did. He told me, Ryan, do you? He didn't tell me the whole story about the rickety.

**James Fox** (3:43)
Yeah.

**SPEAKER_5** (3:44)
Yeah.

**James Fox** (3:44)
And he was like this shadowy figure up against the corner, like kind of just, you know, I'm looking at him.

**SPEAKER_5** (3:49)
He's looking at me. It was really funny.

**Joe Rogan** (3:50)
We had a lot of we talked a lot of nonsense about aliens, but we also talked about the technology that he knows is state of the art when it comes to drones.

**James Fox** (4:00)
Yes.

**Joe Rogan** (4:00)
And that some of these ones in New Jersey, they're doing things that you can't really do yet.

**James Fox** (4:05)