#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

Joe Rogan (0:01)

Joe Rogan Podcast, checking out The Joe Rogan Experience.

Quentin Tarantino (0:06)

Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. All right, here we go, we're rolling.

Joe Rogan (0:13)

So you're saying that someone was telling you how to kill someone with coffee?

Roger Avary (0:16)

Okay, so I got to know all these, you were talking about some...

Joe Rogan (0:20)

His name's John McPhee.

Roger Avary (0:21)

Some operators, and I got to know through a friend, through a billionaire friend who loaned his plane to Clinton, to fly those people out of, I think, North Korea. And so from that point on, he was surrounded by these guys. And one of them, this guy, Mikey, which isn't his real name. I think he's actually named, they name them all after the Archangels. So he was like Michael, the New York guy, Gabriel.

Joe Rogan (0:53)

They take on these, there's nothing creeper than an assassin with a biblical name.

Quentin Tarantino (0:58)

Named after an Archangel.

Roger Avary (1:00)

Yeah. Well, you know. And so we got to know each other because of our mutual friend. And I think what happened was he and a couple of the other guys, they were placed on me for surveillance purposes. Like, you know, find out what this Avery guy is about maybe, or just keep an eye on him or whatever. And they told me right up front, like, be nice to your surveillance. You know, like, don't try to lose us or anything like that. Because I heard stories about how, you know, they're surveilling somebody in wherever, Bolivia. And suddenly some gang attacks their surveillance and they step in, kick the shit out of the gang. And so so I got to know these guys. And naturally, you know, I'm a writer and a filmmaker. And so I, of course, want to talk to them about stuff. And they immediately started volunteering. Oh, yeah, we've learned all these different ways when I became an operator, blah, blah, blah. I learned how to kill people without. And I was just making a list now of the ten ways to kill someone without leaving a trace. And I was like, well, just like when I told Quentin about this, he's like, well, what are those? I'd like to hear those. Everybody wants to hear those. And so one of the ones that I think is the best one is you inject someone with coffee, caffeine, like just inject coffee into their bloodstream, gives them a heart attack, and it's untraceable. Later on, they do an autopsy, and they just discover caffeine in your system.

Joe Rogan (2:26)

That's it?

Roger Avary (2:27)

That's it.

Joe Rogan (2:27)

Is this just right in the blood? Coffee can kill you?

Roger Avary (2:30)

Sometimes the simple way is the best.

Quentin Tarantino (2:32)

Just right into the juggler with a syringe?

Joe Rogan (2:34)

Yes. Jesus.

Roger Avary (2:35)

After extracting whatever information you need to get out of him.

Joe Rogan (2:37)

But how much coffee will kill you like that?

Quentin Tarantino (2:40)

A syringe worth?

Roger Avary (2:41)

I don't know. Is it the Turkish kind, or is it Folgers?

Joe Rogan (2:45)

Cuban espresso?

Roger Avary (2:46)

Yeah. But he was a medic during the war. Well, the war. He was a medic, and so he was identified as somebody who knew how to kill somebody very easily, because you know what will work, because you're a medic.

I would hear every now and then, I'd kill some guy and some diplomat or something in the Philippines, and I'd hit him with my car and I'd look in my rear-view mirror and make a determination, a medical determination of is the guy still alive, or I better finish him off and put him in reverse and drive him over again a couple of times, and then take off. He's doing that all the time. All the time, they're doing it.

Joe Rogan (3:30)

Well, Jamie and I were just talking, they think they have a photo of the guy who whacked that insurance CEO.

Quentin Tarantino (3:35)

Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:36)

They think they have a photo of his face now.

Quentin Tarantino (3:38)

Oh, they do.

Roger Avary (3:39)

Well, I would think, with the amount of cameras.

Quentin Tarantino (3:41)

Or they picked it up later.

Joe Rogan (3:42)

I think, you know, there's cameras everywhere. And that's part of the problem with someone. I don't think this guy was a professional. I think this guy, if I had to guess, some guy who got fucked over. Apparently, that company is really bad on denying claims.

Roger Avary (3:58)