#2238 - John McPhee

John McPhee (0:01)

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.

Joe Rogan (0:03)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

John McPhee (0:06)

Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

Joe Rogan (0:11)

Yeah, good to see you, brother.

John McPhee (0:12)

Yeah, how are you, man?

Joe Rogan (0:13)

Great, great. It was nice to meet you at F1, and I really loved your episode of Sean Ryan. I fucking love that dude.

John McPhee (0:19)

Thanks, man. Yeah, Sean is...

Joe Rogan (0:21)

He's the man.

John McPhee (0:21)

He's awesome, I love Sean.

Joe Rogan (0:23)

I'm so glad there's guys like him doing this, that there's more people like him that are like finding new ways to like... You know, media is so wide open now, and it's not... You don't have to get hired by a television station anymore. You can just start your own shit, and Sean's show is fucking great.

John McPhee (0:42)

Yeah, he's great. Sean's... I love him as a person.

Joe Rogan (0:44)

Yeah, I love him too. He's great. He's an awesome dude, and I loved you on that show, but goddamn, man, that show was crazy. Like, your childhood was so nuts, dude. Hearing about you living in a brothel when you were 12 years old.

John McPhee (0:56)

Yeah, me and my brother.

Joe Rogan (0:57)

Fuck, dude. Your whole story was so nuts, man. I was listening to it in the sauna this morning, and I was like, oh my God. So I'm there cooking at 195 degrees, listening to you struggling.

John McPhee (1:09)

I was in there for half an hour.

Joe Rogan (1:11)

I usually do 20 minutes, but I kept going. I'm like, his life was so fucked up. I feel like I shouldn't bail right now. I should keep listening.

John McPhee (1:18)

I feel like, but I'm not the only one. You know what I mean? I feel like where I was in the Army is full of guys just like that.

Joe Rogan (1:25)

A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Yeah. And I think in some, well, fighters as well. You know, a lot of fighters I know like Sean Strickland, a lot of guys I know had fucked up childhoods. I think it gives you an extra gear. I think when you can get through a childhood like that, you got an extra place that you can go to, that other dudes can't go to. And in your line of work, that comes in very handy.

John McPhee (1:48)

Yeah. Well, I think it works like this. I never heard it as an extra gear, but here's the way I always equated it. You know you're going to get a beating, and it's coming at 5 o'clock. You know after dinner, they're going to be hammered. And this is another argument and fight, and it's a pattern, right? And you know this as a kid, right? And what happens is you got to take that beating and then put your church clothes on, we're going to church. You know what I mean? And the truth is, like, I think my brother more than me, but I think my mom actually had him convince that we were super bad kids and, like, you know, we were, I don't know, a couple of years ago, I was like, you know, like, you ever met an actual bad, like, four or six or eight-year-old?

Joe Rogan (2:36)

No, it's how they're raised.

John McPhee (2:37)

Right?

Joe Rogan (2:38)

It's all how they're raised.

John McPhee (2:38)

And then it was kind of like, I think it was an eye-opener for him, but, like, it was always our fault.

Joe Rogan (2:45)

Well, that's the thing, you can convince kids of almost anything. You can convince them it's their fault. You can convince them that they're bad kids, and then they feel bad for the rest of their fucking life. They feel like a piece of shit. There's a lot of people out there that didn't do anything wrong. They're just raised by shitheads, and for their whole life, they feel like garbage, and they don't know why. It's so hard to snap out of that, too, and it takes something for you to do that makes you feel valuable and worthwhile. You have to kind of, like, relearn who you are as a person, and some people never do. And then they, you know, find meth or heroin or something that takes the edge away, and they can just exist.

John McPhee (3:23)

Yeah, well, I'll tell you, that was the Army for me. Like, the first time I ever felt like, like I fit in, or I was with people like me, was when I was, you know, in Ranger Battalion.