#2234 - Marc Andreessen

Joe Rogan (0:01)

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Marc Andreessen (0:13)

Hello.

Joe Rogan (0:13)

Good to see you.

Marc Andreessen (0:14)

Thanks for having me back.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

My pleasure. Good to see you. Where the world's still functional.

Marc Andreessen (0:19)

It's amazing.

Joe Rogan (0:19)

Yeah, amazing. We wanted to talk, you wanted to talk about the post-election sort of a wrap-up, sort of where we stand. Are you happy?

Marc Andreessen (0:28)

Very happy.

Joe Rogan (0:29)

It was a weird one.

Marc Andreessen (0:31)

Morning in America.

Joe Rogan (0:32)

That was one of the first times ever I felt hopeful after an election. Like you should have seen the green room at the comedy club. Everybody was like, yes.

Marc Andreessen (0:38)

Yes. So my theory is the timeline, like in a science fiction movie, the timeline has split twice in the last, in the last like nine months.

Joe Rogan (0:47)

What was the first split?

Marc Andreessen (0:48)

There was when Trump got shot. And there was that moment where the world was going to head in two totally different directions.

Joe Rogan (0:54)

Right. If he got hit.

Marc Andreessen (0:56)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:56)

Yeah.

Marc Andreessen (0:56)

And we saw the most conspicuous display of physical bravery I've ever seen.

Joe Rogan (1:00)

Right.

Marc Andreessen (1:01)

Afterwards. In that moment. Exactly. And it could have gone, you know, horrifically badly for the entire world after that. So that was timeline split number one. So that other timeline is out there somewhere.

Joe Rogan (1:10)

Yeah.

Marc Andreessen (1:10)

And I don't want to visit it.

Joe Rogan (1:11)

Boy, imagine being stuck there. What kind of horrible karma?

Marc Andreessen (1:15)

No.

Joe Rogan (1:15)

I mean, that's a totalitarian dystopian nightmare.

Marc Andreessen (1:18)

That's the bad place. Yeah. And then timeline split again on election day.

Joe Rogan (1:23)

I know you fancy a good conspiracy theory.

Marc Andreessen (1:25)

Yes.

Joe Rogan (1:26)

And that gentleman being able to pull off what he did and, you know, the way it happened, the way it all went down is... It's a Lee Harvey Oswald 2.0.

Marc Andreessen (1:38)

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The shooter that we still don't know anything.

Joe Rogan (1:43)

There's no call for disclosure. There's no call for a press conference. There's no toxicology report. The toxicology report had to have been done.

Wouldn't you want to know what kind of stuff this kid is on that made him want to do that or if anything?

Marc Andreessen (1:59)

Yeah. So my theory is it's almost as if the people want us to think it's a conspiracy. Like it's almost like the whole thing is almost orchestrated. Like it's so strange. You know, this is like the rapid cremation. Like the whole thing was just completely bizarre. And then you're exactly right. Like no hearings, no nothing. Now, having said that, I expect that this will change, right?

Joe Rogan (2:18)

So do you think they're going to do a dive into what happened?

Marc Andreessen (2:21)

I mean, I would. I don't know if they will. But, you know, I certainly would if I was in a position to do that.

Joe Rogan (2:25)

I wonder what they can actually find. I mean, I don't know if they wanted it to be a conspiracy that people talked about, or if that's simply the best way to pull it off.

Marc Andreessen (2:35)

Yeah, or it's just, yeah, or it's just, you know, as we saw, I think in the hearing afterwards, maybe just a systemic collapse of confidence.

Joe Rogan (2:41)

There's also a confidence in the fact that the news timeline today is so rapid. When things are relevant and people are paying attention to them is, you have a couple of days, even with an assassination attempt on a former president, where people were murdered, and there's, it's in and out.

Marc Andreessen (3:02)

Yeah, that's right. I think it's exactly, I think the news cycle now is like a two to three day social media firestorm, and we just cycle from one to the next. And we have the memory of goldfish, and, you know, things that would have been error-defining just come and go with astonishing speed and shock. By the way, I should say, I don't think there was, I doubt there was a conspiracy. I think anything's possible. I think it's just, we have a competence collapse. And I think we saw that on display when the director at the time, you know, testified.

Joe Rogan (3:26)

Well, there's all the elements that could have been a conspiracy.