#2230 - Evan Hafer

Joe Rogan (0:00)

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Evan Hafer (2:24)

Joe Rogan Podcast, checking in.

Jamie (2:26)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Evan Hafer (2:28)

Shrain by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

Jamie (2:35)

Come on, brother.

Joe Rogan (2:36)

Good to see you.

Evan Hafer (2:36)

Good to see you.

Joe Rogan (2:38)

So, this conversation was, well, anytime you want to come on, I'm always happy to talk to you. But this conversation was birthed out of that crazy conversation we had in elk hunting camp.

Evan Hafer (2:48)

Which one?

Joe Rogan (2:49)

Well, yeah, we had quite a few of them. Would you just, you will open up my eyes to some of these. First of all, I never understood the extent of the manfuckery in Afghanistan.

Evan Hafer (3:03)

Oh.

Joe Rogan (3:04)

When we were talking, remember we were hanging out in front of the trucks and you were telling me about mumbles?

Evan Hafer (3:08)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:09)

There's a few conversations I've had with friends that for the rest of my life, now things are different. Like now, I look at, that one conversation, that one hour conversation we had, like, okay, the world's different now.

Evan Hafer (3:23)

I, you know, I always assume people have heard these stories from Afghanistan. Cheers. Yeah.

Jamie (3:29)

Cheers.

Joe Rogan (3:29)

You gotta drink that.

Evan Hafer (3:30)

Oh, yeah.

Jamie (3:31)

Cheers.

Evan Hafer (3:31)

Sorry, you can't choose that.

Joe Rogan (3:32)

Yeah. Buffalo Trace.

Evan Hafer (3:37)

So yeah, the amount of man on man buggery in Afghanistan is significant.

Joe Rogan (3:45)

Did they warn you about it before you went over there? No. No.

Evan Hafer (3:48)

I think there was so many different things about both Iraq and Afghanistan that the learning curve for all of us was so high.

Culturally, you don't think about a lot of those things. You just don't. You grow up in America.

Joe Rogan (4:04)

Right.

Evan Hafer (4:04)

You assume everybody, every man is basically like an American male, because that's at 26 or 27 years old. You know that there are cultural differences, for sure. But I'm telling you, I was in Kuwait for the first time early on, and the Kuwaitis like to hold hands. Like the dudes like to hold hands. And that's not comfortable, like for guys.

Joe Rogan (4:32)

Isn't that weird though, because we do shake hands.

Evan Hafer (4:34)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (4:34)

You know what I mean?

Evan Hafer (4:35)

But you don't walk around holding another man's hand. It's just not comfortable in any scenario.