#2225 - Dave Smith

Joe Rogan (0:03)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan (0:06)

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Dave Smith (0:12)

And I couldn't even after we got off the phone last night, I was like, I'm gonna go to bed. I couldn't do it either. And then I just had to watch clips.

Joe Rogan (0:17)

What time did I call you? Like three?

Dave Smith (0:19)

3.30, something like that.

Joe Rogan (0:21)

Yeah, I was just sitting in front of YouTube watching Professional Pool on TV going, what the fuck is going on? So turns out, voting works. It's real. As much as we fucking thought they had it rigged, as much as we thought there were shenanigans and bullshit and it's just a puppet show and there's no way anybody could buck this system, turns out voting is still real.

Dave Smith (0:45)

At least partially.

Joe Rogan (0:47)

At least if it's too big to rig.

Tony Hinchcliffe (0:48)

Yes.

Joe Rogan (0:48)

And clearly he was too big to rig.

Dave Smith (0:51)

Yeah. Wasn't it, it was crazy because it was like for weeks, especially in the close of the campaign, it was one of those things where it felt like, it almost felt like 2008 when Obama was running against McCain, and it was just so obvious Obama was running away with this. Everything you could see and observe, his crowd sizes, the enthusiasm, the culture, it was all behind him. But at that time, the polls were reflecting what you saw everywhere. Obama's up big, he's about to win. John McCain's not going to win after eight years of George W. Bush. The country doesn't want another war hawk. They want this articulate young peace guy.

Joe Rogan (1:30)

Right.

Dave Smith (1:30)

And it was like that with Trump, where it's like all the signs are that he's clearly running away with this. But then every single poll told you, no, this is the closest election of your lifetime. And then it was just, there was a very interesting feeling to see it and be like, oh, okay, I'm not crazy. I was observing all the things I was observing.

Joe Rogan (1:47)

Do you know what Trump told me about the polls?

Dave Smith (1:50)

No, what?

Joe Rogan (1:51)

He's like, they're bullshit. They don't do anything. You give them money, they come back, they have these results, you don't know.

Dave Smith (1:57)

He was like, they charge 500 grand for, yeah. Yeah, he's right.

Joe Rogan (2:01)

He's right. And the media gaslit us to the absolute limits of their ability. The absolute limits. Joy Reid spent the entire time she was discussing Trump the other day comparing him to Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler, talking about a right-wing authoritarian regime as if he had never been president for four years and didn't behave like any of those things. As if the economy wasn't booming, as if people weren't making more money, as if we weren't involved in any new conflicts overseas, no new wars.

Dave Smith (2:38)

I mean, I could point to a lot of things Trump did in his four years that I think were bad, but they were things that were similar to Obama and Bush.

Joe Rogan (2:46)

Guess what? I bet he could point to them too. When I talked to him about what it was like to actually govern for the first time ever, it's a daunting task. He was telling me about the thousands and thousands of appointments he had to make. Thousands of people he had to pick. He didn't know who any of these people were. He had to trust people that he knew, and he didn't know who was telling him the truth, and who was just trying to get the system moving along in the exact same direction. He got bogged down with a lot of that shit. It took forever for them to weed it out, which is the crazy thing about being president. It's the hardest job on the planet, and you start it without any knowledge of it.

Dave Smith (3:22)

Well, that's, yeah, and I mean, a little bit of that's on him, because there were some people who he probably should have known. What I didn't like in his answer about that to you is that then he kind of pivoted to talking about how John Bolton was actually really good to have there because he's terrifying and he's crazy. Oh, this guy wants war with everyone, but the problem is that that's not how it went down. John Bolton ruined the North Korea deal. It's not like it was successful and the North Koreans were so scared of John Bolton that they wanted to talk to Donald Trump. They were at the meeting. They were willing to talk to Donald Trump. And then John Bolton came in and they were like, oh, these guys are psychopaths. I don't want to make a deal with them.