#2214 - Shane Smith
The Joe Rogan Experience
October 16, 2024
Shane Smith is a journalist, executive, and co-founder of VICE Media. Look for his new video podcast series, "Shane Smith Has Questions," coming soon.
Speakers Joe Rogan, Shane Smith
TopicsComedy
Joe Rogan (0:02)
Joe Rogan Podcast, checking out The Joe Rogan Experience.
SPEAKER_2 (0:06)
Shrink by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
SPEAKER_3 (0:13)
How are you?
Joe Rogan (0:14)
Good to see you.
Shane Smith (0:14)
Good to see you.
Joe Rogan (0:15)
What you been up to, man?
Shane Smith (0:18)
That's a loaded question. I'm doing a podcast now.
Joe Rogan (0:22)
You are doing a podcast?
Shane Smith (0:22)
Yeah.
Joe Rogan (0:23)
When did you start?
Shane Smith (0:24)
Yeah. A couple of months ago.
Joe Rogan (0:27)
What made you want to do that? Just got tired of being on the outside looking in?
Shane Smith (0:31)
That's it.
Joe Rogan (0:32)
Yeah.
Shane Smith (0:33)
You actually, I'm going to paraphrase you, so you got to tell me the exact quote. Okay. But you said COVID was a fucked up time. I went in thinking that vaccines were the pinnacle of human technology and came out thinking that the moon landing wasn't real, Michelle Obama's got a dick in the, and I was like, I was me. Like during COVID, I was like, I became obsessed with social media and accent like just looking at shit and whatever. And I'm like, what's true? What's not true? Like, because everybody's speaking so forcibly, this is one question I wanted to ask you is, you talk to all these dudes all the time. One of the things I missed, like I would be talking to people and be like, oh, this is going on in Afghanistan. And I'll be like, oh, I was just there. That's not what's happening. Or, you know, this is happening in Iraq. Oh, I was just there. I love talking to people. I love meeting people. And I love sort of knowing stuff. Like you can just say, well, I'm going to go there. I'm going to figure it out. So I saw this stuff on social media and I was like, wow, you know, there's all this stuff. But no one's really going after it and saying like, as an investigative journalist saying, what's real, what's not real, what's true, what's not true. You are, you're getting in there.
Joe Rogan (1:47)
There's a few people doing it. They're all investigative journalists. They're all independent. They're all completely outside of any kind of Washington Post, New York Times.
Shane Smith (1:57)
It's the only way to do it.
Joe Rogan (1:58)
It's impossible to exist in mainstream media and be legitimate now. There's going to be.
Shane Smith (2:02)
100%.
Joe Rogan (2:03)
There's going to be guardrails. 100%. Yeah, there's no way.
Shane Smith (2:05)
But you talk to everybody, and that must be fascinating because you get the inside track. Like your brain is like a wealth of information.
Joe Rogan (2:16)
Yeah, it's like I had an unexpected education.
Shane Smith (2:20)
Yeah.
Joe Rogan (2:20)
Like an unanticipated, unplanned education in all sorts of things.
Shane Smith (2:25)
Yeah, and these guys are super interesting, and you get to learn, and that's amazing.
Joe Rogan (2:29)
It's pretty amazing. Yeah. I mean, you learn a lot of bullshit too. Some of the stuff you learn is not true.
Shane Smith (2:34)
Well, that's the problem.
Joe Rogan (2:34)
Yeah.
Shane Smith (2:35)
I got a question.
Joe Rogan (2:36)
Yeah.
Shane Smith (2:37)
Bobby Kennedy seems to be like so fast. I remember I used to watch Tony Blair during question period, and he'd leap up and he'd be like blah, blah, blah. He was so like he knew everything and the facts and stuff.
You've interviewed him a bunch of times or?
Joe Rogan (2:54)
I've talked to him many times. I interviewed him once.
Shane Smith (2:56)
Is he that good in person?
Joe Rogan (2:57)
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_2 (2:57)
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe Rogan (2:58)
He's legit. I mean, he was an environmental attorney.
Shane Smith (3:01)
Yeah.
Joe Rogan (3:01)
That was his background. He's had a crazy life. Imagine you're 14 years old and your dad gets killed by, who knows, but it might be the government.
Shane Smith (3:13)
That's my first episode.
Joe Rogan (3:15)
Yeah.
Shane Smith (3:16)
Assassinations. Deep state. Getting into it.
Joe Rogan (3:19)
Well, it's a real thing. You know, I don't know who's doing it or what faction or how small the amount of people are that are involved in it. I mean, imagine if you're like a legitimate person working for the CIA and you think that the CIA is trying to assassinate Trump and you're like, what the fuck? Or whoever.
Shane Smith (3:36)
That's our first episode.
Joe Rogan (3:38)
It's got to be, I mean, it's got to be a small faction of intelligence agencies that want to do things. How many people do you think were involved in the Kennedy assassination?
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