#2207 - Shawn Ryan

Joe Rogan (0:03)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

SPEAKER_1 (0:06)

Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. How are you, man?

Shawn Ryan (0:14)

How's it going?

Joe Rogan (0:14)

Nice to meet you.

Shawn Ryan (0:15)

Nice to meet you.

Joe Rogan (0:16)

I really enjoy your show. It's very different. Like, when I first started watching it, I was like, oh, this guy's fucking interviewing all kinds of crazy people.

I like you like a Navy Seal Art Bell. It's kind of cool, man, you know, like you go out there with people, like that one dude that was saying there's direct energy weapons in Antarctica. Yeah. You letting that guy go out. He's going out on a long ass pier.

Shawn Ryan (0:41)

Oh, yeah. Eric Hacker.

Joe Rogan (0:43)

All those stories are so crazy. I was just finishing. Is it John Alexander?

Shawn Ryan (0:48)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:48)

Is that the gentleman that worked with like UAPs and unidentified phenomenon and mysteries?

Shawn Ryan (0:54)

He's done it all. He's done it all.

Joe Rogan (0:55)

Fascinating. Fascinating. All the way back to Vietnam, right?

Shawn Ryan (0:59)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:00)

Yeah. That guy, what a crazy story, man. You imagine being involved in that kind of shit?

Shawn Ryan (1:06)

I don't know. Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:07)

How much do you believe it, though? Like, it's like, when I hear the UFO stuff, there's a part of my brain that's like, don't get suckered into this. This shit's nonsense. There's something that it just feels like, like if they told me a supervolcano was gonna erupt, I would believe it, because supervolcanoes are definitely real, and there's a historical precedent. They've ruined civilizations. They tell me that there's UFOs, and part of me is just like, I don't fucking believe you.

Shawn Ryan (1:35)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:36)

You know what I mean?

Shawn Ryan (1:37)

Yeah, I know. You know, I mean, you know what bothers me about the whole campus? Nobody, none of these camps like talk to each other.

Joe Rogan (1:46)

Right.

Shawn Ryan (1:47)

It's, my camp knows everything.

Joe Rogan (1:49)

Isn't that always the case though?

SPEAKER_1 (1:51)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:51)

That's the case in the military often, right?

Shawn Ryan (1:52)

Oh yeah, I was going to compare it to special ops. That guy doesn't know shit. I know every, you know, that's, that's kind of how.

Joe Rogan (2:01)

When I was really young, I was like 24, I was dating this girl that was, she did something in government and she was explaining to me, so this is pre-internet-ish, you know, like people didn't have the internet then. It's like early 90s, right? And she said that she, she, one of her jobs was to make sure that information that the Navy had received would be available to the Army. So like you have to make sure people aren't running redundant tests, like we've already did this, we'll get you this information. So there was like some sort of a database in like these computer terminals where she could share information. And she had some sort of top clearance. And one day, like just fucking around, she wrote little green men in the search function. And her computer got shut down and then people visited her. And they asked her like, what are you doing? Like why did you look this up? Like what is this all about? And I think she wound up either getting fired or transferred to some other position or lost whatever clearance that she had.

Shawn Ryan (3:11)

Interesting. I've not heard that one.

Joe Rogan (3:13)

When I was young, I was like, wow, aliens are real. But as an older man, now looking back on it, I go, well, maybe what she was doing was inappropriate for her job. Like maybe what she was doing was demonstrating that she couldn't be trusted because she's doing something that's not, there was no request to look up little green men.

Shawn Ryan (3:30)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:30)

It was like, she did it on her own.

Shawn Ryan (3:32)

Is this 100% factual?

Joe Rogan (3:34)

Hard to tell. You know, it's just because it was a girl I dated. I don't really know.

Shawn Ryan (3:38)

Oh, you dated her?

Joe Rogan (3:39)

Yeah, I dated her. Yeah. This is, yeah, like I said, early 90s, I was living in New York. I had actually dated her in Boston, then we met up again in New York a couple of years later. So she was telling me about her job, and she was telling me, like, check this out.

Shawn Ryan (3:55)

I shouldn't be telling you this, but here.