#2204 - Matt Walsh

Matt Walsh (0:03)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

SPEAKER_3 (0:06)

Shrink by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

Joe Rogan (0:13)

What's happening?

Matt Walsh (0:14)

Hey, great to be back. Thanks for having me.

Joe Rogan (0:17)

Your movie is really funny. It's really funny. By myself, laughing out loud hysterically today. I watched it in the sauna, I watched it in the gym, I watched it. It was, it's one of the best comedies I've seen in a long time. because there's so many moments that are so uncomfortable.

Matt Walsh (0:36)

That means a lot. I appreciate that. Yeah, that's what we're hoping for.

Joe Rogan (0:41)

The Robin DiAngelo one, where you gave that guy money for reparations and you got her, she thought it was uncomfortable.

Matt Walsh (0:48)

Yeah, that was kind of...

When we had the idea for the film to talk about race, we knew we needed to get Robin DiAngelo. I didn't think we'd get her because I figured she'd be a lot more... cautious. Yeah, savvy and cautious. But apparently, she has no idea what's happening outside of her bubble at all. So she didn't know who I was. I mean, I gave her my name and she had no clue. Wow. But we kind of went into that knowing what the end was supposed to be, if we could get her. We came up with that idea. We went to a bar the night before the interview. And we came up with this idea, could we get her to actually pay reparations to Ben, our black producer? And we had to kind of talk him into it. And you know, it was really just like, in real time, I was there for about two hours, and it was an hour and a half of the most mind numbing conversation where I'm just, none of that's in the movie, because it's just me, like, fluff questions. And I'm repeating back to her own ideas, so she knows that I'm a safe person. It's a safe space, and then you got to build to it, and build to it, and build to it, and finally you get to a point where you can do something a little weird, and she'll probably go along with it. And she did, I mean, you saw we go through a whole, we have a whole series of exercises we want to do with her. And she went, she did it, she was game. So, that was, and that was one of the first things we filmed. So after we got that, we knew that, okay, we have a movie here.

Joe Rogan (2:20)

I feel like you got your money's worth with her, seen as it's $15,000, but I feel like you got robbed by the lady that got upset about the mascot. $50,000, you barely got anything out of her.

Matt Walsh (2:31)

Yeah, that was, well, part of the point of the movie is, that's why we put the price tags on the screen. We want people to see how absurd it is. So in a certain way, it was like, the higher they quoted the price, we said, great, we'll pay that, because we want this in the movie. Right. because if all these people had said, oh yeah, I'll do it for free, or I'll do it for 200 bucks, just pay my travel, doesn't really make the point.

Joe Rogan (2:57)

Right.

Matt Walsh (2:57)

But they all were quoting exorbitant prices, and she was the most.

Joe Rogan (3:03)

$50,000.

Matt Walsh (3:04)

Then she basically said almost nothing, but it was okay.

Joe Rogan (3:09)

No one ever found out who the identity of the mascot is?

Matt Walsh (3:12)

No. I don't think so.

Joe Rogan (3:13)

It would have been hilarious if it was a person of color.

Matt Walsh (3:15)

Well, it almost certainly was. It almost certainly was, because if it was a white guy-

Joe Rogan (3:20)

They would have thrown him under the bus.

Matt Walsh (3:21)

Yeah, yeah, they would have. So the fact that they didn't- Yeah, it's probably some Hispanic kid or something.

Joe Rogan (3:27)

And you gotta imagine, you can't see real good with that fucking costume. You ever put a mascot costume on?

Matt Walsh (3:34)

I haven't, but I can tell that there's little eye slits. You can't even see what's below you.

Joe Rogan (3:39)

Exactly. Duncan and I did a whole podcast where we pretended to be furries. We lasted- Every podcast we do, we dress up. We'll dress up like Star Wars people or whatever, Spaceship people. We did a podcast as furries. We kept the helmets on for maybe five minutes. We're like, I can't fucking do it. We both took them off. Props to the furries. If you could run around with this thing on, this is hard to do. You can't see shit. You can't breathe. So the idea that he missed those kids is-