#2186 - Ari Matti

Joe Rogan (0:03)

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SPEAKER_3 (0:06)

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Joe Rogan (0:12)

Okay, we're up now. So what were you guys talking shop about?

Jamie (0:16)

Explain.

Ari Matti (0:17)

What did you ask?

Joe Rogan (0:18)

What was the question you asked, Jamie?

Ari Matti (0:19)

Well, yeah, Jamie is going to fucking run a train on me.

Joe Rogan (0:23)

I felt that there was some controversy.

Ari Matti (0:25)

There was some tension. There was a little tension. When we had the lovely dinner after your show, we went at it a little bit. And we had a little disagreement about compression technologies, preamps, cloud lifters.

Joe Rogan (0:38)

What is your position?

Ari Matti (0:39)

Well, my position is... Well, okay.

Joe Rogan (0:42)

Hold on.

Jamie (0:43)

It's coming from a different place, though, also.

Joe Rogan (0:44)

So go ahead.

Ari Matti (0:45)

Yeah, very different. Let's just say financially, we're coming from a very different place. But I tried to use the Shure SM7B. We actually got, for my podcast, Tulsi Gabbard. Shout out. Here we are. It's Estonian. You're not gonna... Well, AI.

Joe Rogan (0:59)

What did you just shout out?

Ari Matti (1:00)

Tulsi Gabbard. It means... It means direct translation is Pussy Munchers. It's my podcast.

Joe Rogan (1:07)

Oh. So is it in Estonian?

Ari Matti (1:11)

Wow.

Joe Rogan (1:12)

Do you think Spotify will translate it to English? Maybe you'll be the first that goes the opposite way.

Ari Matti (1:16)

Bro, if AI translate this podcast, I'm fucked, you know?

Joe Rogan (1:20)

Oh.

Ari Matti (1:20)

Yeah, yeah. Like.

Joe Rogan (1:21)

Oh, take it down. See, this is the thing. They're gonna do that.

Ari Matti (1:24)

I know.

Joe Rogan (1:25)

Spotify's going to do that with...

Ari Matti (1:26)

But they don't get my charisma and timing down, though.

Joe Rogan (1:28)

No. Also, sense of humor, sarcasm, and when you translate things to English, you sound like a Nazi.

Ari Matti (1:35)

I will be a Nazi.

Joe Rogan (1:37)

That's the problem with satire and humor and what is, for lack of a better term, it's called talking shit, okay? And this is what we do on podcasts. This is what we do in the green room. This is what me and my friends love to do all the time. Right? We do that all the time. We say things we don't mean because it's funny. We say things are inappropriate because it's funny. And it is 100% done with fun. And the problem is today, people like to take things and pretend you're saying something, but that's not what you're saying.

Ari Matti (2:14)

Yeah, there's a funny comedian in Canada. He's an American who moved to Vancouver. He's Dino Archie. He used to say, off the record talk.

Joe Rogan (2:22)

Right, it's shit talk. We're not saying things that we mean. We're saying things that are fun to say. But what I was gonna get to before we did is the thing that Jamie told me about MSN. Well, Tulsi Gabbard was the first person to tell me about it. So I was talking about how great Tulsi Gabbard is. About if you really wanted a great Democratic candidate, that was a woman, woman of color, congresswoman for eight years, served overseas in a medical unit twice. That's where she got that gray streak in her hair. She's like an exemplary human being.

Ari Matti (2:54)

She likes my Kill Tony bits on Instagram.

Joe Rogan (2:56)

And they tried to say that I was talking about Kamala Harris. So they edited out of context.

Ari Matti (3:02)

Dude, I've seen your edited videos with ads because...

Joe Rogan (3:06)

Yeah, there's a lot of AI ads that aren't really me.

Ari Matti (3:08)

Because Estonia is in Eastern Europe and the Russian bot system in that country.

Joe Rogan (3:14)

It's crazy, right?

Ari Matti (3:15)

Bro, it's crazy. I've seen fake podcasts where there's a guy on your podcast, which never has happened. And the guy has a Shure SM7B. Not this mic stand, let's be honest. It's some shittier version. And the backdrop is similar. But you can tell it's not that podcast.

Joe Rogan (3:33)

But you can do amazing things now with AI. You could do it with video editing for sure. Like you could just have a guy splice in, him being in this chair, me being in that chair, and if you did it right and you spent your time on it, you could make it very convincing. And that's just the beginning, man. There's a podcast with me and Steve Jobs. I never met Steve Jobs. There's like, I think it's 40 minutes long. How long is the podcast with me and Steve Jobs? But it's a completely AI-generated podcast. It's just audio. But from what I've heard, you can kind of tell, but it's getting close. It's getting to the point where you're not gonna be able to tell, you know, when you hear enough computer-generated sentences, you're gonna catch little glitches in The Matrix. You know, it's gonna sound a little off.