#2166 - Enhanced Games

Joe Rogan (0:12)

Gentlemen, good to see you.

Christian Angermayer (0:13)

Good to see you.

Joe Rogan (0:14)

Please introduce yourselves.

Aron D'Souza (0:16)

I'm Dr. Aron D'Souza, president of The Enhance Games.

Christian Angermayer (0:19)

And I'm Christian Angermayer, co-founder of The Enhance Games.

Joe Rogan (0:22)

And this is a very exciting idea. And how did this come about?

What was the impetus behind this?

Aron D'Souza (0:30)

I've been studying the Olympics and the Olympic movement my entire life. You know, I'm 39 years old when I was a undergraduate at university. It was just after the Sydney Olympics. And, you know, it was always something that inspired me. And I thought to myself, you know, I learned some key statistics. 44% of Olympians admit to using banned performance-enhancing drugs within the last year, according to research commissioned by the World Anti-Depth.

44%.

Joe Rogan (0:55)

And the other, you know, probably lying.

Aron D'Souza (0:57)

Or losing. Exactly.

And so, you know, and then I learned that the average American Olympian only earns $30,000 a year. And I thought to myself, there's something really wrong in the system. And instead of, you know, trying to reform it, let's take a blank slate of paper and invent the third Olympiad from scratch.

Joe Rogan (1:19)

Well, the Olympics is kind of a scam because it generates billions of dollars in revenue and the people that are there to perform make almost none of that.

Aron D'Souza (1:30)

That's correct. Actually, the International Olympic Committee doesn't pay any of the athletes. Incidentally, they may get some money in sponsorship or from their National Olympic Committee. But ultimately, the billions of dollars in revenue come into the Olympics, and none of that goes to the athletes. It gets wasted building stadiums. It gets wasted paying officials.

And we thought there's a way to do a better, more honest model that inspires us to believe in the future of science and technology in the 21st century.

Joe Rogan (1:58)

And you could do it apolitically, too, if you chose to. You know, are you guys doing it by nation, or are you doing it just like human beings?

Aron D'Souza (2:07)

Human beings.

Better. Yeah, I think the era of nationalism is over. Look at the Eurovision Song Competition recently.

Joe Rogan (2:15)

What is that?

Aron D'Souza (2:16)

Oh, it was when, you know, Israel was performing and there were huge protests out front of the competition.

Christian Angermayer (2:23)

It's a very European thing. It's called European Song Contest.

Joe Rogan (2:27)

Song?

Christian Angermayer (2:27)

Contest.

Joe Rogan (2:28)

A song contest.

Christian Angermayer (2:29)

Yes, it's every country, every year makes a very cheesy song. Oh, God. I actually like it.

Let's not go there. I'm kind of a fan, being German.

It's a big thing in Europe. But unfortunately, it was super fun and campy. There's actually a Netflix movie about it. Not a documentary, but a fun movie about it.

Joe Rogan (2:51)

Is this a reader, Jimmy?

Christian Angermayer (2:58)

It's Noreen.

Joe Rogan (2:59)

She's amazing.

Christian Angermayer (3:01)

It's very catchy songs.

Joe Rogan (3:02)

She's crawling around with her butt up in the air.

Christian Angermayer (3:05)

Well, it's very campy.

Joe Rogan (3:07)

I guess.

Christian Angermayer (3:08)

But there is even a cool Netflix movie about it. But long story short, unfortunately, this was the first year where it became really political, which I think music shouldn't be, which was sad.

But we will not be political. That's the short version. We're not going to go per country. It's the best human being, the fastest one, highest jumper, whatever.

Joe Rogan (3:28)

Yeah, it's just so many countries use it as a political tool.

And they cheat. I'm sure you guys have seen Icarus, right?

Aron D'Souza (3:39)

Yeah, I was with Brian Focal a couple of days ago.

Joe Rogan (3:41)

He's great. And that documentary is amazing.

I mean, what incredible like circumstances, like the way it all played out, where he's in the middle of doing this documentary about doing a race naturally, and then doing a race enhanced, and the guy he contacts, in the middle of all the Sochi Olympics crap, that guy winds up fleeing the country, spilling the beans, and now he's hiding.

Aron D'Souza (4:05)

He needs witness protection.

Joe Rogan (4:06)

Yeah, still in this country, hiding from Russian killers.

Aron D'Souza (4:11)

Yeah, and that's right. And I think, you know, the reality is that performance enhancements are everywhere.

6.3% of men in the Western world have used anabolic steroids at some point in their life. 75% of men who regularly go to the gym are interested in using steroids. And so instead of doing it underground, in secret, let's do it out in the open with clinical supervision and safety.