#2160 - Billy Carson

Joe Rogan (0:12)

Yeah, so the thing is about that photo of the moon that they do with the phones, they found out that that's kind of bullshit.

Billy Carson (0:18)

No, let me show you some of mine.

Joe Rogan (0:19)

I know, I took it too, but what it is, is it's AI. And so what someone did on-

Yeah, what someone did online, one of them clever kids, they took a very blurry photo of the moon and they put it on a screen across the room. And then they zoomed in on it as if it's the moon and the camera showed detailed craters.

Billy Carson (0:39)

Oh, well, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about like this, you know.

Joe Rogan (0:43)

Oh, okay, so that's a real picture. So that you just used the 100x zoom.

You didn't use the moon photo thing.

Billy Carson (0:50)

Yeah, no, this is just me standing outside.

Joe Rogan (0:52)

There's a moonshot aspect to that, that's a little-

Billy Carson (0:55)

I gotta check that, I didn't know about that one.

Joe Rogan (0:57)

Yeah, if you zoom in on it, if you zoom in on the moon, okay, I don't think that's real. See, that's what I'm talking about. I think that's AI.

Billy Carson (1:04)

The AI recreates it?

Joe Rogan (1:06)

Yeah.

Billy Carson (1:07)

Really?

Joe Rogan (1:07)

Wow. Yeah. I know, I was showing off to my family.

I have the 22, I think the S22 Ultra. I had the older one, and I would take photos of the moon. I'm like, look, iPhone's bullshit, it can't do this. But it turned out, it looks like I got fooled.

Billy Carson (1:23)

Oh man.

Joe Rogan (1:24)

Yeah, because you can't hide stuff like that on the internet, technology stuff. Those guys are too good.

Billy Carson (1:30)

They know everything.

Joe Rogan (1:31)

They know everything.

Billy Carson (1:32)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:32)

But we were just talking about the difference. I'm really thinking about switching to Android. I'm just tired of being trapped.

Billy Carson (1:37)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:38)

And it's just like this resistance, everybody's like, don't do that. I'm like, oh my God, it's like a mind virus. Like everybody's like culturally locked in having a blue bubble.

Billy Carson (1:47)

Well, when you tell them you're gonna switch from Apple, then Agent Smith shows up from The Matrix.

He inhabits their body and they turn, try to tell you to stop doing it. Don't do it, like try to convince you not to leave.

Joe Rogan (1:59)

It's like if you were a Catholic and you said, I'm gonna become a Baptist.

Billy Carson (2:02)

Right.

Joe Rogan (2:03)

People are going, don't do it, don't do it. Like, what are you talking about?

Billy Carson (2:07)

Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:07)

It's not that much different.

Billy Carson (2:09)

I know, it's crazy.

Joe Rogan (2:10)

It's weird. People get, they get weird with everything. They get weird with their beliefs. They get weird with what they subscribe, what group they attach themselves to.

Billy Carson (2:20)

It's so true.

Joe Rogan (2:20)

It's so strange. And I think this is a good way to segue into like what you do.

Cause these subjects, so many of these subjects, so many people have like an instantaneous reaction.

That instantaneous reaction is, oh, hogwash. If this was true, I would already know about it. It would be taught in universities, it would all be.

But then you find out like no one is really just kind of trying to piece stuff together. They're specifically talking about these ancient tablets, which are, to me, some of the most interesting things about ancient history. Particularly what came out of ancient Sumer. Ancient Sumer, when you look at their tablets and like what are they saying? And why would they dedicate so much time to talking about this stuff?

Why do they have pictures of giant, look, enormous people looking things with like a humanoid with a tail sitting on their lap? Like, is this just fiction? Like, why would they detail this? And how do they have a representation of the solar system with the correct amount of planets and relatively the correct order and size? You know, it's not exact, but it's an artistic version of the real thing.

And how the hell, how the hell, how the hell 6,000, 5,000 years ago do they know that? And what explanations do we have? Like, what's the conventional explanations when people tried to dismiss what they knew in ancient Sumer?

Billy Carson (3:51)

Well, the conventional explanation is always going to the term mythology.

They throw mythology around, you know, left and right to cover up the fact that they have no clue or idea. So they turn it into mythology so they can kind of say it's all fantasy and fairy tales, and this is how they express themselves or how they understood the universe. It's all mythology, it's all fake, but in reality, it's not all fake. These people left behind such detailed records and information, it's a time capsule of information on stone tablets for us today to be able to decipher, break down, and understand, and that's what we're here to do now.