#2119 - James Lindsay

Joe Rogan (0:04)

Joe Rogan Experience.

James Lindsay (0:14)

I'm good, Joe.

Joe Rogan (0:14)

I'm your American masculine, are you sure? We both, we didn't even coordinate, but we're both wearing American flags.

James Lindsay (0:19)

Yeah, well, I mean, it's that kind of, it's that time, right? It's time to start saying, you know what, I'm an American, and that's cool.

Joe Rogan (0:26)

Before you say that, I mean, if you don't, we're on the way to saying I'm Chinese.

James Lindsay (0:36)

Well, how's your Mandarin?

Joe Rogan (0:38)

Yeah, might be a good time to learn it as they're all sneaking in across the border. That's one of the more disturbing things.

When I talked to Brett Weinstein, he was talking about how many Chinese military age men are sneaking across the border. And you want to look at it the best way possible. You say, well, it's probably a bunch of people that are looking for work, and it's probably a bunch of people that are, you know, there's not as many Chinese women, and they're looking for a girlfriend or something. And why do they have military haircuts? Well, they're probably, you know, it's just like a young man thing.

James Lindsay (1:08)

Yeah, I mean, I've heard more specifically, I can't vet it, so I can't prove it. So, like, there's the grain of salt upfront. But I have heard that even Chinese special forces, if I was a special forces of a hostile country, I'd try to sneak across and do infiltration. So I've heard that there might be even, you know, hundreds or thousands of those. Not hundreds of thousands, hundreds or thousands. But I don't know if that's true, but...

Joe Rogan (1:31)

Well, I wouldn't... It's not even really sneaking in anymore, is it?

James Lindsay (1:35)

No, you just kind of walk across and... I mean, there's even memes that are like, I'm gonna go to Honduras and give up my American citizenship and come back across so everything will be paid for for me. You know, it's like...

No, it's not sneaking across. It's like, as they are saying, full-scale invasion.

Joe Rogan (1:51)

Well, it's just weird. It's weird that we've just kind of gone, well, well, we've always... I mean, there was always customs. There's always you land, they check out your stuff, they look at your paperwork, they go through your passport, they ask you questions, why are you in this country?

You know? And it's always been that way. Like, I was watching this video with the, you know, Deadmau5 is? Deadmau5, the musician, the DJ, he was...

he was trying to come into the country to visit his friend. And they said, no, you're coming in to work. He's like, no, no, I'm coming, because he's famous, he works. He's like, no, I get paperwork. And they kicked him out of the country for like seven years.

James Lindsay (2:35)

Whoa.

Joe Rogan (2:37)

He should have just walked through.

James Lindsay (2:38)

Yeah, right, he should have been fine.

Joe Rogan (2:41)

But what a bizarre thing, if you're undocumented, if you are poor, and if you're going to do cheap labor, walk right in. But if you're a highly skilled, world famous DJ, and you want to go visit a friend, we're concerned that you might actually be working there.

James Lindsay (2:59)

Yeah, or like a super pro tennis player who's going to go play in the US. Open, but no, maybe not, right?

Joe Rogan (3:05)

Well, that was the Vax.

James Lindsay (3:06)

That was the Vax.

Joe Rogan (3:07)

By the way, Neil Young came back to Spotify. Congratulations, Neil.

James Lindsay (3:13)

Yeah, well, that's good news.

Joe Rogan (3:14)

And his excuse was, he said that, because all of the platforms are now allowing my disinformation so that he could just go back on Spotify, too. Great to know you've got some ethics.

James Lindsay (3:26)

Yeah, well, everybody's doing it these days. Disinformation.

But yeah, I mean, there's a strategy. The reason the border is the way that it is is... Well, there's a strategy. I don't know who's playing the strategy for sure, but the cloward-piven strategy, I'm sure you've heard of that. Somebody's got to have talked to you about the cloward-piven.

Joe Rogan (3:43)

Can you explain it?

James Lindsay (3:44)

Yeah, it's pretty simple.

The idea is that you take advantage of a system and the way that it's set up so that you overwhelm it, in particular in this case. You're going to overwhelm social services. You're going to overwhelm border enforcement. You're going to overwhelm whatever they're doing in the cities. It's like tens of thousands of dollars per taxpayer or whatever per year going to dealing with what they're calling the migrant crisis. So you try to overwhelm the system in order to basically collapse it so that you can create a crisis, and the crisis creates the excuse to bring in new policies. Oh, well, maybe what we need is, what do they call it, e-verify or something? So we need a digital system where we can track who everybody is, but then they get their digital system, and then you're off to the races.