#2085 - Charles Wesley Godwin

Jamie (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan (0:13)

Pleasure to meet you. What's happening?

Charles Wesley Godwin (0:14)

Pleasure to be here, Joe. Thanks for having me.

Joe Rogan (0:16)

Listen, my honor, I love your music.

I got introduced to you by Duncan. We were in the green room of the mothership, and Duncan goes, you got to hear this, and he puts on Family Ties. And I went, damn, that's a good fucking song. And then we played Cue Country Roads, and then we just got on a roll. And then like the whole night, we played your music.

Charles Wesley Godwin (0:34)

Hell yeah, dude.

Joe Rogan (0:34)

It was fucking awesome.

Charles Wesley Godwin (0:35)

He was telling me that, you know, he showed my music to you. He said, normally, you don't like his recommendations.

Joe Rogan (0:42)

Well, he'll go a little emo on you.

Charles Wesley Godwin (0:47)

But he said that you dug that, and I was like, holy shit, man, isn't that something? I, Duncan was really cool.

I was at Apple Studios in Nashville doing this live session thing with him when he messaged me on Twitter and asked me to be on his podcast. And that made my freaking week. I was like, holy shit, Duncan Trussell likes my music?

Joe Rogan (1:09)

Fuck yeah.

Charles Wesley Godwin (1:10)

And then we were doing his podcast, and afterwards, he's like, yeah, man, I showed your music to Joe, and he really liked it, too. I was like, fuck yeah. So yeah, shout out to Duncan. I appreciate him doing that.

Joe Rogan (1:21)

No, Duncan's a man. He is one of the most unusual people that I've ever met in my life. There's not another one like him.

Charles Wesley Godwin (1:26)

Yeah, he's cracking me up.

Joe Rogan (1:27)

Yeah, he's a one of one.

That's a one of one. When he moved here, I was so happy, because he went to Asheville, because he grew up in Asheville, and he moved there, and it was just during the pandemic, it got bleak there. The jobs were all dried up, everything was fucked, everything closed down, and he said crime was crazy. Asheville is per capita in the top ten of crime in the country.

Charles Wesley Godwin (1:54)

Holy shit.

Joe Rogan (1:56)

I might have made that up.

Let's see if that's a fact. I'm pretty sure Duncan told me that. But he's like, dude, there's so much fucking crime, it's everywhere, everyone's on meth.

Charles Wesley Godwin (2:06)

Your Duncan impersonation is way better than mine. But we recorded the album there.

We were there for two weeks last January, and it's like sleepy this time of year. I guess their tourism is at its lowest in January. And dude, I loved it.

Joe Rogan (2:24)

It's gorgeous.

Charles Wesley Godwin (2:24)

I love the town, and you know, it had some some homeless and stuff like that, but damn, I didn't know that.

Joe Rogan (2:31)

I went there back in, I think I did a gig there, in 2015 or 16, somewhere around then. I was like, God damn, what a great town.

Just the perfect size. Not too big, you know, cool, artsy.

Charles Wesley Godwin (2:45)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:45)

Beautiful scenery, you know, it's like the mountains.

Charles Wesley Godwin (2:49)

Yeah, I dig it. We were at the, we played The Orange Peel, you know, like four or five weeks ago, and it felt like a hometown show.

That's the stronghold there in the mountains.

Joe Rogan (3:00)

Duncan grew up there, and he said when he was growing up there, there were so many cows that had magic mushrooms in their shit, that the farmers started putting some sort of anti-fungal thing in the cows' food so that it would repel the fungus from the cow shit. I was like, how satanic.

Charles Wesley Godwin (3:21)

People were going out in their meadows, trying to harvest those bad boys.

Joe Rogan (3:25)

He said it was everywhere. What is this?

Jamie (3:27)

It was up around April, so about a year ago.

Joe Rogan (3:30)

What does this have to do with Epstein?

Jamie (3:31)

That's just the picture that's on the...

Joe Rogan (3:32)

Oh, I was like, what are you saying? Tourist town Asheville rocked by violence in the wake of defund police movement, rolls out plan to combat crime spike. Yeah, so there was a big-ass crime spike.

Yeah, he said it was crazy. He said, but that's the saddest fucking shit about small rural communities, is when everything dries up, there's nothing. There's nothing there. There's no other jobs. There's no other place to go.