#2070 - Evan Hafer

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Evan Hafer (0:16)

That's what you're classifying yourself as.

Joe Rogan (0:17)

Podhead comedian slash cage fighting commentator.

Evan Hafer (0:21)

Cage fighting commentator.

Joe Rogan (0:23)

I got a pretty solid IQ for that.

Evan Hafer (0:24)

No, that's great.

Joe Rogan (0:25)

So you said it was the average, there's 16% of America that has below 85 IQ.

Evan Hafer (0:33)

Correct. So that's the cutoff for military service. They can't take somebody in.

Joe Rogan (0:39)

This is the kind of talk that started Hitler off.

It's like, when they start getting some master race, eugenics, because you know, like, I would never, ever say that people shouldn't breed. I would never say anything like that. I would never. I would never.

SPEAKER_3 (0:59)

If we were in Elk Honeycomb, I fucking tell you that.

Joe Rogan (1:02)

But publicly, I would never say that.

Evan Hafer (1:04)

You would never say it on this podcast.

Joe Rogan (1:06)

Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. I don't know what my parents' IQs were. What if my parents were, you know, like, what if they got IQs and their IQ tests were really low?

But I mean, isn't it possible that someone who's not that bright, has a super smart kid, like they give them enough vaccines and the kid comes out a genius?

Evan Hafer (1:26)

I hope that's the case for my kids.

God, I hope so. I hope they got a little bit more than I do. Life's hard when you're stupid.

Joe Rogan (1:36)

Oh my God, it's so hard when you're dumb.

Evan Hafer (1:39)

God.

Joe Rogan (1:40)

I've had conversations with dudes, and like halfway in the conversation, I'm like, this poor motherfucker with this dim light bulb.

Evan Hafer (1:48)

Typically me, that's the way I feel, where I'm like, I'm running this thing to the red, you know, like I've got max RPMs going on up here, down here. I got a head dinner with Eric Weinstein.

SPEAKER_3 (2:01)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:01)

See, that's what I'm talking about.

Evan Hafer (2:03)

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_3 (2:04)

I'm just trying to like impossible to keep up.

Evan Hafer (2:07)

It's like you're at VO2 Max, and he hasn't even like stepped off the curb mentally. Yeah. He's like, let me explain this to you. He got out the crayons and drew me some pictures.

Joe Rogan (2:19)

Dude, he literally wrote, I don't even know if it's been disproven. See, this is the thing. The stuff that he discusses is so complex that there's only like, what's the amount of people in the world that could even argue with him about it? But he wrote a theory of everything.

Evan Hafer (2:36)

The theory of everything.

Joe Rogan (2:37)

And he announced it on this podcast. He like published this theory, and he's putting it out there for people to judge.

And I don't know how it's been received. I don't know. But how would I know? I mean, I would never understand who's right. Like, one of the things that I've learned during COVID, this whole trust the experts thing, suck my dick.

Okay, that's nonsense. There's a lot of these people that are fucking full of shit and bought and paid for. And I don't trust just the experts anymore. I trust some experts. I trust if I can understand what they're talking about, and I know where maybe their conflicts lie, I can see, well, why would they be ignoring certain studies but highlighting others? Oh, there's a conflict of interest.

SPEAKER_3 (3:22)

Oh, there's some money involved.

Joe Rogan (3:23)

Oh, maybe there's a revolving door and they can get into some nice agency or some corporation after they're done with the agency.

I can kind of look at that, but it takes time. With this shit, what he's talking about, I have no idea who the experts are. I have no idea what he's literally talking about, a theory of everything.

Evan Hafer (3:45)

And it was Brian Callan and me, and it was a wild conversation.

Joe Rogan (3:49)

Did she even get to talk?

Evan Hafer (3:51)

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_3 (3:51)

With Brian Callan and Eric Weinstein.

Joe Rogan (3:54)

How much did you get to talk?

Evan Hafer (3:55)

I got to talk like 10% of the time, which I felt was...

Joe Rogan (3:59)

That's a solid number.

Evan Hafer (4:00)

Yeah, that's a solid number. I showed up, I got up to bat. I can't say I ever hit the ball, but I was at least participating.

Joe Rogan (4:08)

Dude, I had conversations with Jordan Peterson where we've had a three and a half hour conversation. I've talked for three minutes.