#2069 - Dr. Shawn Baker

Dr. Shawn Baker (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

SPEAKER_1 (0:09)

You good?

Dr. Shawn Baker (0:13)

What's up, Shawn?

Joe Rogan (0:14)

Good to see you.

Dr. Shawn Baker (0:15)

Good to be back, Joe.

SPEAKER_1 (0:16)

You're still alive.

Joe Rogan (0:17)

You've been eating nothing but meat, and you're still alive.

Dr. Shawn Baker (0:19)

I am still alive.

Joe Rogan (0:20)

Fucking doubters be gone.

Dr. Shawn Baker (0:21)

Yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe, before we get started, I just want to say thank you for, one, for the stem cell stuff, but also for just having the conversations that other people are not willing to have. And I've seen where they try to cancel you and all the BS, and you didn't have to do that, but you let other people have discussions so we're not being censored. So just in case other people have. I'm sure you've been told that before.

Joe Rogan (0:43)

Well, thank you. I appreciate that.

It's a weird time, man.

Dr. Shawn Baker (0:46)

It really is.

Joe Rogan (0:46)

First of all, it's a weird time that a guy like me has a show, which is bizarre, that this kind of, you know, that I'm a source of information in some sort of strange way, because that's certainly not what I set out to do. Just along the line, I'm, you know, I'm curious and wanted to talk to people, you know, including you and this diet.

And you know, I tell people, I'm not strict with my carnivore diet, like Saturday night I had sushi.

But I'll tell you, I felt like shit afterwards. I ate a ton of it. I ate so much. I'm a glutton. But all that rice, I was like, oh, it just makes me realize like how much better I feel when I only eat carnivore when I when I just eat mostly meat.

I feel so much better. I mean, maybe it's anecdotal. Maybe it's just me and you, maybe and many other people that do it. But there's something to it. But you're an extreme example because you have been doing it now for how many years?

Dr. Shawn Baker (1:46)

So I'm starting my eighth year.

So when I came to see you last time, it was almost six years ago. So I had just finished seven years now. So yeah, it's been a while.

Joe Rogan (1:57)

People should know that you're actually a doctor. You're an orthopedic surgeon and you didn't at one point in time, they took your license away because you're providing medical information but you got it back?

Dr. Shawn Baker (2:09)

Yeah, it was an interesting thing. So when I was practicing medicine, busy orthopedic surgeon, plugging away, doing a thing and then I started realizing, hey, I can have people avoid surgery by changing their diet. Their pain went away. I was like, you don't need surgery. Well, that is not what hospitals want you to do. They want you to keep the engines turning, so to speak. And so I said, hey, look, I want to practice some lifestyle stuff.

And that ended up leading to a long battle with myself in the hospital.

The hospital basically suspended my privileges and went to the state. The state said, hey, you can fight this in our sort of state medical board situation, or you can get independently evaluated.

And I said, well, let me just get independently evaluated, because I don't see how to have a hospital. And so that was done. It was like right at the time when I saw you a couple of days before. And they came back and said, there's nothing wrong with you. Go back to work.

And so I got that. And then I had to reapply to the board, reapplied for a license. They granted my license, and I renewed it three times since then. So I'm a licensed medical, licensed doctor. But right now, I'm not actually actively practicing because I got frustrated with the medical system. I think our health care system has some serious, serious problems, some serious conflicts of interests, some serious, I think the incentives for providing what I think is appropriate in health care is misaligned. And so over the last few years, we set up a company, it was called Revero, and we're licensed in all 50 states. We have physicians all across the country. And we're basically set up to provide what I call actual health care, root cause medicine, get people off the medications, actually try and fix their disease and not just medicate everybody. Because we have such a system where everybody's just like, you go to the doctor, here's your diagnosis, here's your drugs, stay on them the rest of your life, which I think is the wrong course.