#2064 - Mike Baker

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Mike Baker (0:14)

Greetings to you, Mr. Rogan.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

We always have to bring you in when the world's fucked. Someday we're going to bring you in when everything's great.

Mike Baker (0:20)

That would be, you know, I'd look forward to that. And we could just talk about other things, but...

Joe Rogan (0:24)

You were my go-to guy when there's international conflict, and I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

Mike Baker (0:29)

Yeah, I appreciate that, because we have some conflict.

Joe Rogan (0:32)

That's what I hear.

Yeah. So what the fuck is going on, Mike Baker? Tell me the real deal.

Mike Baker (0:40)

Well, there's something happened in the Middle East that's taken everybody's eye off the ball and what's happening in Ukraine, which is amazing.

7 October happened with that incredible medieval slaughter by Hamas.

And I was amazed at how quickly, right? I mean, I guess I know that people have Attention Deficit Disorder, but you didn't see anything about Ukraine.

Or the conflict for the next couple of weeks, right? It took them that long to then think, okay, well, we still got this thing going on over here, right? People die and Putin continues to operate as meat grinder for the Russian soldiers.

And so that was incredible, but then timing-wise, the other thing that I thought was amazing was despite the brutality of the 7 October attacks, and Hamas knew this was gonna happen, but the number of days that it took to turn the narrative around, right? So everybody was horrified at how terrible the slaughter was. And then within a matter of days, it was like, no, it's Israel's fault, right? And how did that happen? Hamas knew that was gonna happen because that's what they count on, which is why they embed themselves with civilians. It's why they put their operations centers, their tunnels, their weapons stockpiles. It's why they put it all underneath civilian infrastructure, like the Al-Shifa Hospital that's been in the news lately and in other places, because they know that they're gonna end up with dead Palestinians, right? And that's kinda, it sounds wrong, but it's kinda their currency, right? It's kinda what they expect. And they don't give a shit. I mean, you can see just by the way that Hamas has governed, if you can call it that, Gaza, for, what is that? That's new math for me. But since 2006, really, they kicked out Fatah, they kicked out the Palestinian Authority in 2007 So you can tell by the fact that they've done nothing to improve the lives of Palestinians. They don't give a shit about Palestinians, right? That's not their point. Their point is the extermination of Israel, because they're overlord in the Iranian regime. That's their purpose in life too.

So it's, you know, I hate to start off on a really, really, you know, cynical rant, but they know because they're very, they're clever. They've got a good public relations group, if you want to call it that. They understand how international media works. They know that it won't take much time for condemnation of Israel, because you end up with dead Palestinian civilians, which is incredibly sad, right? It's very sad for the Palestinian people, right? Their plight is legitimately awful.

But to imagine somehow that Hamas cares about them, or has been some sort of benevolent, I knew I was going to be able to say that. That's a word. That's a fucking word. Benevolent, wow. Governing body of Gaza is ridiculous. So I don't know. I guess it's hard to tell where I stand on this issue.

Joe Rogan (3:47)

It's so strange that some people, particularly like these really crazy leftists, have gone as far as saying they were happy when the slaughter took place. I've seen that.

Mike Baker (3:59)

You had staffers in the UN's refugee office, I mean, again, keeping it in perspective, not a lot of them, maybe in private they were, but you had some staffers celebrating openly, through social media, about what happened on the 7th of October, right? You've got, well, college campuses filled with useful idiots who are happy to spout the Hamas narrative, and you've got protests in the streets, and some people earnestly hoping for a better situation for Palestine.

Other folks couldn't find Gaza on a map if you took a map and shoved it up their ass.

It wouldn't work, right? They just, they don't care. You know, it's the latest thing. So I don't want to put all the protestors in one camp because, you know, some are legitimately working to better the lives of Palestinians, and yes, you can feel awful about what happens with the civilians, but I'm not sure what people expect Israel to do after what happened on the 7th of October, and after Hamas continued to say, well, we're just gonna keep doing this. It wasn't like they said, well, there you go, that was a one-off. No, they said, we're gonna keep doing this because that's their purpose in life, is the destruction of Israel. I mean, I believe people sometimes when they say things and that's what they mean. It sucks.