#2052 - Shane Dorian

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience. Good to see you.

Shane Dorian (0:15)

Thanks, good to see you, too.

Joe Rogan (0:17)

What's the latest and your greatest?

Shane Dorian (0:19)

Lots of stuff, man.

I feel like, I don't know, I feel like normally I don't have that much that's the latest and greatest, but yeah, a lot's been happening. I've been crazy busy, but all good stuff, so nothing to complain about.

Joe Rogan (0:30)

What's been happening? What's crazy busy?

Shane Dorian (0:34)

Let's see, in the last three months, four months, been to Mexico twice, El Salvador once, California four or five times, Indonesia for a month, Tahiti, France, Mexico.

Joe Rogan (0:47)

Damn, son. World traveler.

Shane Dorian (0:50)

A lot.

Joe Rogan (0:50)

What have you been doing?

Shane Dorian (0:52)

A lot of surfing. A lot of surfing.

Joe Rogan (0:54)

How's your knee?

Shane Dorian (0:56)

It's great.

Joe Rogan (0:57)

100%?

Shane Dorian (0:58)

It's amazing. It's not 100%, but it's, I never thought it would be this good again, honestly.

It's really, really good. I have a slight range of motion that's not as good as the other, which is to be expected, but it's great. I surf with no brace. I snowboard with no brace.

I go hunting all the time with no brace. I never really think about it, which is amazing.

Joe Rogan (1:19)

For people who don't know, you were in a snowboarding accident, and you fucking demolished your knee.

Shane Dorian (1:24)

Yeah, I ran right into a tree, wrapped my knee around a tree.

Joe Rogan (1:28)

Always my fear when I see people skiing and snowboarding. I quit skiing because of an accident. I fucked my knee up, and I cracked my shin bone. I got an insufficiency fracture in the top of my shin bone. I was like, that's it.

I'm done. I'm done with this.

Shane Dorian (1:45)

Yeah, I love snowboarding. I'm not giving it up.

But yeah, to answer your question, I'm really happy with the way my knee healed up, so yeah, it was a shitty experience of that whole process.

Joe Rogan (1:57)

How long did it take you to fully heal?

Shane Dorian (2:00)

Probably 18 months.

But I was really, really, I really followed all the physical therapy and all the protocol, and I did every single thing I could to help it out. Like you rang me and said, let's get some stem cells in your knee. So like I came twice here, guys at Ways to Well helped me out with that, and I had great results from that. I actually felt the difference, which is amazing, but it healed great.

Joe Rogan (2:32)

You were saying that was the turning point, like the Ways to Well, like that you were, that this is one of the things that really pushed you over the edge where it really felt like it was healing.

Shane Dorian (2:41)

Yeah. I mean, I went to a great surgeon, and he does these things all the time with great success, and I have a lot of friends who've had that exact same surgery from him. So I was really confident.

Joe Rogan (2:51)

What was the extent of the injury?

Shane Dorian (2:52)

I got full repairs of my ACL and my MCL. They both basically blew off.

So they took my patellar tendon and split it in thirds and then built new ligaments out of that.

Joe Rogan (3:05)

So the MCL and the ACL had a patellar tendon?

Shane Dorian (3:08)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:08)

How much does that compromise the patellar tendon?

Shane Dorian (3:12)

It doesn't really.

Joe Rogan (3:12)

Because I had a patellar tendon graft on my left knee, and it took forever to heal. Where on my right knee, I had a cadaver, which only took like six months.

Shane Dorian (3:21)

Yeah, I think using a cadaver, you heal much faster. But yeah, the...

Joe Rogan (3:27)

Why did they decide to do that with you?

Shane Dorian (3:29)

Just because like that specific injury that I had, like I spoke to my surgeon, really good guy named Warren Kramer out of California.

And he said, look, we have a couple of different options here you can choose. And he just kind of ran me through. And he said if it was my knee, I would use a patellar tendon.

He goes, it'll take longer to heal, but you'll be rock solid. And like the way he explained is the patellar tendon is pretty wide and really, really strong. So even though you're taking a third from one side and a third from the other side, it doesn't really compromise the integrity of the actual tendon. And it's weird the way your body is able to turn that tendon into ligaments. That's strange.