#2033 - Matt Rife

Joe Rogan (0:14)

Let's go, Matt Rife.

Matt Rife (0:15)

Let's do it.

Joe Rogan (0:16)

Let's start off the show. Are you still in LA right now?

Matt Rife (0:20)

Technically, yeah. I mean, I'm home three days a week, or three days a month, maybe.

Joe Rogan (0:24)

You're just constantly touring.

Matt Rife (0:26)

Yeah, it's a dream come true, man. You gotta be careful what you wish for.

But long time coming, you know?

Joe Rogan (0:31)

Well, I don't know.

It's not careful what you wish for. It's just, you just have to learn how to manage this new thing now. It's great, though. It's not careful. It's fucking awesome. It's so much better than it not working out for you.

Matt Rife (0:46)

Oh, absolutely. No, if I could sleep like a normal human being, I think I'd be just fine.

Joe Rogan (0:50)

Yeah, we were just talking about that, the serious insomnia. Have you done anything to try to mitigate that? Have you done, have you taken melatonin? Have you tried any herbal, have you done all that stuff?

Matt Rife (1:00)

I've OD'd on melatonin, dude. I've taken 30 milligrams in a night, and you know, you build up a tolerance to melatonin. You have to stop using it for a little while. I mean, I do have to smoke like every single night to even have a chance of falling asleep.

Joe Rogan (1:13)

Wow. So you just like get some of that Be Real Indica, some of that Cypress Hill shit.

Matt Rife (1:18)

Oh yeah, dude, until I just am just deformed in bed.

Joe Rogan (1:22)

And that puts you out?

Matt Rife (1:25)

Not really.

No, dude, it's insane. I can stay awake on Xanax and everything. It's almost like-

Joe Rogan (1:30)

So interesting.

Matt Rife (1:30)

If you picture like a light switch to turn your brain off, I just can't. It's like-

Joe Rogan (1:36)

Your switch doesn't work.

Matt Rife (1:37)

No, and I think it's like, after thinking about it for years, I think it's the same mechanism in my brain that like allows me to think quickly on stage that allows, that keeps my brain up at night. Like I just think about anything. It's not even anxiety. It's just anything.

Joe Rogan (1:52)

It's just frantic thoughts just bouncing around in your head.

Matt Rife (1:55)

Yeah, anything from middle school memories to like, man, it's crazy how leaves are green and then brown sometimes. It's just fucking anything.

My dick is like, please don't beat me. It's like, I've tried everything, man. Tried everything. I promise.

I know, I know. It sucks. Because obviously, I mean, for as much as I work out, like your muscles don't get that time to recover because they can't build.

Joe Rogan (2:16)

Well, and your brain doesn't get that time to recover. Your immune system suffers. Everything suffers when you don't sleep. I've made a really conscious effort over the last year to get a lot of sleep. And I've fucked it up quite a few times with the club.

Because there's been times with the club where at least three nights a week when I'm performing, I'm out till two o'clock in the morning. And generally, I wake up around eight to start working out. And at eight, it's like six hours. It's not quite enough. It's not even six hours. It's like five and a half. And I feel tired. I look tired.

And I just don't have as much juice. And then when I adjust and then get proper sleep again, it's all sudden, it's like whoop. Like I feel like everything turns up to 10 again. It's fascinating. Like I feel a big difference, like physically feel a big difference. Like if that, if sleep was a supplement, if I could take a sleep supplement and it gives you that feeling you get when you're like fully rested, oh my God, you're just better. You're better. Everything works better. Your brain works better.

You can physically do more.

Everything works better.

Matt Rife (3:24)

I've heard.

Joe Rogan (3:24)

Yeah, you gotta try it.

Matt Rife (3:25)

I don't think I've even been in a REM sleep in five years, dude.

Joe Rogan (3:30)

Oh, that doesn't make sense.

Matt Rife (3:31)

It's so not good.

Joe Rogan (3:31)

You'd be dead.

Matt Rife (3:32)

I feel dead, dude.

Joe Rogan (3:34)

But you're not. You feel alive.

Matt Rife (3:35)

I've stayed awake for nine straight days before.

Joe Rogan (3:37)

What?

Matt Rife (3:38)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:39)

I don't even think that's possible.

Matt Rife (3:40)

I think the world record is like 11 or 13 Because I looked into it because I genuinely started to get like fearful for my own health.