#2028 - Jeremy Corbell & George Knapp

**Joe Rogan** (0:13)
Hello, Jeremy, what's up? Good to see you guys.

**Jeremy Corbell** (0:15)
Hey, man.

**Joe Rogan** (0:16)
The two musketeers at the front lines of UFO disclosure.

**Jeremy Corbell** (0:20)
It is scary if that's true, Joe.

**Joe Rogan** (0:23)
I think you guys are. I mean, you're certainly prominent.

**Jeremy Corbell** (0:28)
Can I get the mic turned up on this bad boy?

**Joe Rogan** (0:30)
Yeah, there's a little thing right there. You can hear your own voice. There's a volume knob right there.
We're up.

**George Knapp** (0:37)
It's exciting times.

**Joe Rogan** (0:38)
It is. It's very exciting times.

**George Knapp** (0:40)
I've said it a few times that I never thought I would see it in my life. I would just keep plugging away for, this is my 36th year doing this, chasing this crazy story.
I never thought it would make this much progress. Still a long way to go.

**Joe Rogan** (0:52)
Are you apprehensive at all that some of the stuff that they're releasing is bullshit?

**Jeremy Corbell** (0:58)
Of course.

**George Knapp** (0:59)
Wait, wait, wait.

**Jeremy Corbell** (1:00)
Who's releasing?

**Joe Rogan** (1:01)
I mean, when you see these, these, the Pentagon's talking about it, when, you know, intelligent officials, do you ever wonder whether or not it's disinformation?

**Jeremy Corbell** (1:13)
Yeah.
You want to? Go ahead. So, yeah, I'll take that first. Yeah, I've heard you kind of talk about that a bunch, you know, and I think it's a very healthy suspicion to have.
My perspective is a little different, in that people are always coming at me with fake information, like every day, all the time. But the people in government that we have been able to kind of interface with, I wish there was an adult in the room. I wish that this was orchestrated through the media. It would give me some sort of hope that someone has some sort of control on this, and that has not been my experience.

**Joe Rogan** (1:48)
What is your experience? Like, what's your impression of how it's all happening?

**Jeremy Corbell** (1:53)
It's a big question. I don't know where to start on that, but just here's what I know. I know that there are people in government that want some level of disclosure on whatever this is, without defining it. Just there should be oversight.
So I know that to be true. There are good people that think that people are running amok, and there must be oversight, not just financially, but if these types of technologies actually exist. Right.

**Joe Rogan** (2:20)
Who's in control of them and why? And who has access to them and why?

**George Knapp** (2:24)
I mean, we have a history of disinformation and misinformation put out to the public and to Congress by the intelligence community, by the Pentagon. They lie all the time. It's part of the turf. It's part of the job.
But for them to then go into closed door briefings with members of Congress, with the oversight committees who handle their budgets, for them to lie about that, that's another matter. And I don't think they would, because they could get busted for it.
A lot of stuff is coming out now. And I know we get asked all the time, who's behind this push? It looks like it's one big movement, as opposed to a bunch of different things that all happened in approximately the same time. It's kind of been organic. Different people have come forward, and it encourages other people to come forward, as opposed to somebody doing a master manipulation of the whole thing.

**Joe Rogan** (3:13)
What resistance is there to this information getting out?

**Jeremy Corbell** (3:17)
There's resistance on multiple levels. So despite what you believe to be true or not true, the big question is, are we going to be able to verify some of these claims? That's all I care about, right? If we're back engineering some of these crafts, then I believe that we should have the discovery process to find out if things like what David Grush has said under oath, that he has literally put his well-being and his safety on the line for. If that is true, then we have a duty to find out. So the pushback comes from many levels. There's stigma. It's fucking huge, dude. Like, it is political toxicity for some of these senators to even...
You know, people don't want to know... They don't want me to say I ever talk with them. It's like a... it's like a...
It's like a toxic environment politically, the UFO thing.

**Joe Rogan** (4:04)
Because everybody thinks it's bullshit, or you're a loon if you believe it. But not everybody, but quite a few people.