#2019 - Tim Dillon

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Tim Dillon (0:13)

Joe Rogan, thank you for having me.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

Always good to see you.

Tim Dillon (0:16)

Good to be here.

Joe Rogan (0:17)

You escaped from LA before the massive strike.

Tim Dillon (0:18)

Yeah, well, I think it didn't affect flights as much as I thought, but it was 11,000 city workers decided to strike, and a lot of those are, yeah, but air traffic controllers are federal. But the baggage claims all screwed up. They canceled a bunch of stuff.

I don't know. It's 11,000 city workers. I don't know what they're, what, you know. I think it's a bunch of different groups of them that want stuff.

Joe Rogan (0:45)

Yeah, is there like specific demands? Like is it pay increase?

Tim Dillon (0:48)

Maybe they want to stop getting killed by the homeless.

Maybe it's very reasonable. Maybe it has nothing to do with money, and they're like, we just want to stop being like people flinging their excrement at us while we're cleaning the park.

Joe Rogan (1:00)

Could be.

Tim Dillon (1:01)

Yeah, I don't know what it is. I don't know what the demands are. Maybe they're scared they're gonna be replaced by AI, like the actors and writers.

Joe Rogan (1:09)

They might be. Who knows? You know what the sketchiest thing that I saw about the whole actor writer thing was that for background players, when people work on a film, they wanted access to their image forever.

SPEAKER_4 (1:22)

Right.

Joe Rogan (1:22)

So they would take you and make a digital version of you. So if you're like a background guy, instead of paying background people to hang around in some crowd scene, they will now just fill it in with you. So the same background people, which is like one of the nuttiest fucking like fringe theories of any catastrophe is that you have these actors.

SPEAKER_4 (1:47)

Right.

Joe Rogan (1:47)

Like what do they call them?

Crisis actors, right. Where these people are hired by the federal government and they appear in like multiple different scenarios where they say that something happened to them and the shooter entered into the building.

Tim Dillon (2:03)

Well, they're striking next, the crisis actors. They're gonna go, I am worried that my likeness will be used as Sandy Hawk in perpetuity without my...

Yeah, it's weird. It's weird because it doesn't seem like there's a way to prevent it. You know?

Joe Rogan (2:20)

Because digital use of your imagery.

Tim Dillon (2:22)

Well, every business in the world is using AI, right? You know, these movie studios and streamers spent a lot of money investing in AI technology during the pandemic, a lot of in-house AI projects. And I imagine that they're gonna utilize that technology to some degree.

I agree though, that it's creepy and it will eliminate a lot of jobs. And if there's a way to stop them, great, but is there?

Joe Rogan (2:53)

There's no way.

Tim Dillon (2:54)

There doesn't seem to be a way.

Joe Rogan (2:55)

No, that train is rolling and there's a lot of track in front of it and it has insane momentum and you're not gonna put your hand out and stop it.

Tim Dillon (3:04)

Yeah, you might mitigate the effects, maybe the government would pass like a loss and listen, you can't replace more than 10% of your workforce with AI over the next five years. I don't know if that would even be a feasible thing to do, but maybe they could do something like that.

Joe Rogan (3:21)

Like the problem is, if you have a business and the business can be better run by AI, do you have a responsibility to hire human beings to do a lesser job?

Tim Dillon (3:31)

Great question.

Joe Rogan (3:33)

It's a real good question.

Tim Dillon (3:33)

Great moral, and if you listen to these, like Drake songs that they're coming out with AI, so Eminem song that just came out with, they're good. They're good.

Joe Rogan (3:44)

I was just having a conversation with Post Malone about it.

You know, Post uses like auto-tune, but he writes all his own songs, you know, and he performs all his own songs. And I think his fans want to know that's him singing a song. They would probably still enjoy a fake Post Malone song, but dude, I saw him live last night. When you see these people singing along with him, it's something really powerful, man. It's not just like a regular concert. They fucking love that dude.

Tim Dillon (4:17)

Well, look at the Taylor Swift thing, which I feel very left out of because I'm the only person that has not seen it.