#2012 - Gad Saad

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Gad Saad (0:13)

Oh my God, I'm excited to see you.

Joe Rogan (0:14)

Good to see you, it's always great to see you.

Gad Saad (0:16)

I think this is the ninth time I appear. So am I entering kind of Hall of Fame style?

Joe Rogan (0:22)

Yeah, there's like after five, anybody with more than five.

Gad Saad (0:26)

That should be like the top line on my CV. I forget about all the other bullshit.

Nine times on Joe Rogan.

Joe Rogan (0:32)

We've had some fun conversations.

Gad Saad (0:33)

Yeah, before we start, today, July 25th, is the release of my latest book. Here's a copy for you, sir.

Joe Rogan (0:40)

Thank you very much. The Saad Truth about Happiness, Eight Secrets for Leading the Good Life.

Gad Saad (0:46)

Boom.

Joe Rogan (0:47)

All right.

Gad Saad (0:48)

Please read it. You'll enjoy it.

Joe Rogan (0:49)

Did you do the audio book?

Gad Saad (0:52)

I swear to God, the number one thing I was worried that you were going to ask me was that, and you'll lead off with that. So here's what happened.

Joe Rogan (1:00)

An actor does it.

Gad Saad (1:01)

So he has a beautiful voice. I insisted, I said Joe Rogan berated me on his show for maybe 15 minutes, listened to him.

They pitched it to the audio publisher. The audio publisher said, Sorry, we do in-house narration. So I think for the next book, I'll put it as part of the contract.

Joe Rogan (1:22)

Yeah, it has to be. They're silly. They're silly, especially in, you're a public figure.

Like there's hours and hours of you talking.

Gad Saad (1:32)

Indeed.

Joe Rogan (1:32)

Now when people want to hear your words, they want to hear them through your mouth.

Gad Saad (1:35)

And it's personal stories.

Joe Rogan (1:37)

Yes, it makes no sense.

Gad Saad (1:40)

I'm sold. Believe me, I fought the fight.

Joe Rogan (1:42)

That's so crazy. But it's such a silly fight to have when someone's a professional public speaker, like yourself, like it doesn't make any sense.

Gad Saad (1:51)

With a very velvety voice.

Joe Rogan (1:53)

Velvety, smooth. And you know, who's closer to the subject matter, right?

Gad Saad (1:59)

Indeed, indeed.

Joe Rogan (1:59)

Come on, you know the truth behind the words. You're gonna say these things, if you're talking about, especially like real life experiences, you're saying them as you.

Gad Saad (2:08)

I lead off, by the way, in first chapter, to talk about sort of existential happiness, about how I came very close to being aborted in Lebanon. I don't want somebody else to be telling that story.

Joe Rogan (2:20)

Right, right, right, right, right. Of course. Your story is wild.

You know, when I find about people like yourself that have been through a really scary thing, really scary, genuinely scary, scary threats for threats of your life, war zone stuff, folks like yourself have so much less patience for nonsense.

Gad Saad (2:46)

Exactly.

And that's why I sometimes can appear irascible when I go after, because sometimes people will say, when I meet you, you seem so much nicer and warmer than how you are on social media. But I'm not trying to be mean on social media, it's that I'm pissed off at the bullshit. And so it comes across as though, you know, I'm cantankerous and combative, but I'm just really fighting, hopefully, the good fight.

Joe Rogan (3:10)

The real problem with social media is the problem with human beings. It's tribal group think. And it overwhelms these groups of people that you associate with, and then narratives get formed, and you can't stray outside those narratives. You can't even look at objective reality. You can't look at data. You can't look at it. It just becomes so crazy. The ideology and the adherence to that ideology trumps everything, trumps the truth. It trumps, you're willing, as long as the politicians on your side, to ignore craziness, corruption, horrible shit. You ignore all of it.

Gad Saad (3:46)

Perfect example of that. I hate to say that I've seen his feed meathead from All in the Family, Rob Reiner, have you ever gone to his?

Joe Rogan (3:57)

I've read a couple of tweets and I'm like, I'm out. I love his work too much.

Gad Saad (4:01)

I know, I know, it's hard to then like his work. He is so overwhelmingly obsessed with Trump. Stephen King is another guy who fits that description.

Joe Rogan (4:15)

Something happens to old liberals with a ton of money.

It's like something happens to those old creative types. It just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense that you're arguing with people online about it all day long, if you're Rob Reiner or if you're Stephen King. Like putting nasty tweets out, it's like come on.