1KHO 947: Building Up a Culture of Care | Tim St. John, After Church Hurt

Ginny Yurich (0:00)

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My name is Ginny Yurich, I'm the founder of 1000 Hours Outside, and I have a special guest here today. And we're gonna be talking, if you've been around for a while, if this is the first time that you've ever listened to the podcast, this might seem kind of like an odd one. But if you've been around for a while, you know that we have some institutional church things in our past, and it's affected our family quite a bit, even years later. Still, there's the underlying effects, and it also affects how we live our day-to-day life and all of those things. And there's a man named Tim St. John, who's written a book. Timothy St. John is what it says on the book, but Tim or Timothy, Timothy St. John, who wrote a book called After Church Hurt, Healing and the Care of the Good Shepherd. And it's kind of a short one, which I kind of like, because if you're in the middle of hurt and suffering, you're like, oh, I don't know if I can make it through 300 pages or something. And so, Timothy, I'm really honored to have the chance to talk with you and interested to hear a little bit more about your story. So, welcome to you.

Tim St. John (3:13)

Oh, thanks so much, Ginny. Thank you for having me, and I'm excited to be here today.

Ginny Yurich (3:18)

So, you're a counseling pastor at a church in California. I've never heard of a counseling pastor, so can we start there?

Tim St. John (3:25)

Yeah, so first, I feel like the best thing for me to explain is what I'm not. Like, our counseling ministry that I oversee is not the bucket that all the problems in the church go into because I don't want that job.

What we really are is we are a place, or sort of a refuge in the church for people who are facing seasons of great suffering or maybe real struggles with sin. And we want to make sure discipleship is happening in those seasons. And we just need a friend in the difficult spots of life to point us to Christ, to use scripture to be a lamp to our feet, a light to our path, to point us to Christ. But it is also meant to draw in the body of Christ. So we help organize care groups. We organize, we help people that are already in their community understand the burdens they're carrying, the temptations they're wrestling through, so that their closest friends are actually the ones who do the longest care. And we're there just for a time fixed period to really help not only care for them, but equip their closest community.