1KHO 851: The Plan Falling Apart Is a Natural Part of Any Worthwhile Adventure | Paul Rosalie, Junglekeepers

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**Ginny Yurich** (1:03)
Hey friends, it's a big week because we hit 850 episodes yesterday. When I first started this podcast, I never imagined we'd be here. 850 conversations, hundreds of books read, thousands of pages of notes, millions of downloads, and I still get just as excited when I get the opportunity to interview someone who has a story worth sharing. Today's guest absolutely fits that description. Paul Rosalie has spent nearly two decades protecting the Amazon rainforest. And after reading his books, I honestly didn't know how I was going to fit everything I wanted to ask into one conversation because I filled 18 pages of notes. At one point during this interview, Paul even held up his bare foot to explain how we learned to walk through the jungle without shoes. That's the kind of conversation this is. But underneath the stories about Anacondas, elephants, indigenous communities, and one of the last truly wild places on earth is something much bigger. It's a story about purpose, about perseverance, and about what happens when life doesn't follow the plans you made, and why that may be the best thing that ever happens to you. Before we jump in, can I ask one small favor? If this podcast has encouraged your family, challenged your thinking, or simply become part of your week, would you hit the subscribe or follow button wherever you're listening? That one click helps make sure these conversations keep finding more people, and it means you won't miss out on what's coming next. We've got some incredible episodes ahead, including Dr. Robert Millello and The Return of Gretchen Rubin, and I cannot wait to share them with you. One more thing, so many podcasts are powered by large production teams. This one is not. I read every book, make every page of notes, record the interviews, do the audio editing, upload everything and share the podcasts across social media.
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Welcome to The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast. My name is Ginny Yurich, I'm the founder of 1000 Hours Outside. And I am so thrilled for today's guest. He has written incredible books. He's saving the world, saving the jungles. The books are called Mother of God, Junglekeeper, and The Girl and the Tiger. I have never taken as many notes as I have. For today, I have 18 pages of notes. Paul Rosalie, welcome.

**Paul Rosolie** (3:19)
Thank you for having me on.

**Ginny Yurich** (3:22)
Are you hitting a tree? Is it like hitting the back of your head?

**Paul Rosolie** (3:25)
I am a little bit. The tree is just letting me know that she's there. She's reaching out.

**Ginny Yurich** (3:30)
Oh, the books, they're soul changing. They're soul changing. Not only do you learn that you can become a part, you can take part in saving the jungle in this incredible conservation effort that you're doing, but also to read your journey. You're so inspired to never quit. You're so inspired to just go for it. You don't have to, you're never too young. I was trying to figure out how to structure the interview because there are so many components of what you've done. And I thought I would love to focus on some of the different characters, which are people and animals that are a part of your storytelling, your beautiful storytelling. So I would love if you would kick it off with your parents. You talk a lot in your books about your parents, Ed and Lenore.
You say you have given me everything and they were so supportive of you when you were struggling at school, which I think is very relatable. You're struggling at school. It's boring.
You say a lot of kids are in slow atrophy. There's these droning lectures. You're trying to read books under your desk and it's just causing problems and your parents allowed you not only to drop out and start college young, but then you went to the jungle at age 18 with some random person named Emma for $25 a day.