#1958 - Andrew Huberman

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Every now and then, pizza is good for you, right? What is your schedule as far as, do you allow yourself bad food every now and then?

Andrew D. Huberman (0:22)

My vices in the food department are croissants.

Thing is, that hits the dopamine button, and it's all about more. I mean, I can sink five of those things.

Joe Rogan (0:34)

Chocolate croissants are my jam.

Andrew D. Huberman (0:36)

Oh, really? I don't adulterate my croissants.

Joe Rogan (0:38)

Really?

Andrew D. Huberman (0:39)

No, maybe extra butter. For me, it's all the savory stuff. Savory salty, so it's croissants every once in a while.

Or pizza.

Joe Rogan (0:45)

Have you had a chocolate croissant?

Andrew D. Huberman (0:47)

I have.

Joe Rogan (0:48)

Pretty goddamn good. You like them? I'm with him, I'm all butter. Really? Butter's nice.

Butter's nice.

Andrew D. Huberman (0:54)

I think the all butter for me justifies having three or four.

Joe Rogan (0:57)

When I lived in New York, I used to love buttered bagels or buttered rolls. They do not have that out here for some strange reason. It's like a common thing. If you go to like a deli in New York, they always had buttered rolls. It was like just a roll with a lot of butter on it and people would eat that with coffee.

Out here, they don't have that for some strange reason. Or in LA, they don't have it either.

Andrew D. Huberman (1:21)

I like how in New York, when you get a soda, even at a little 7-Eleven type place, they offer you a straw. It's one of the last civilized things in life, to be offered a straw.

Joe Rogan (1:30)

You know what I saw? There's a chart, see if you could find this, of you know how we're supposed to be not using plastic straws anymore because turtles are dying?

You know that people give you paper straws?

Andrew D. Huberman (1:45)

I remember the six-pack container, those plastic things, and you see the soda thing around.

Joe Rogan (1:49)

Oh yeah, like the turtle, where it constricted his shell. Have you ever seen that one? Like it got around a turtle when he was little, and as he grew, the shell became like an hourglass. It was really gross.

But there was this chart of the countries in the world that pollute the ocean the most. And it's fucking stunning.

And if we stop using plastic straws, we're not gonna put a fucking dent in it unless they do. Like we're not even close to number one. We're not even close to number six. Like the leading countries that pollute the ocean, I think number one was Philippines.

Andrew D. Huberman (2:26)

I was gonna say Southeast. Why would Southeast Asia have that issue?

Joe Rogan (2:32)

I would imagine that when people are very poor, the last thing they're concerned about is not polluting. I would think that.

Andrew D. Huberman (2:39)

I've seen those images of those giant icebergs of plastic junk. And I always hope that's not real.

Joe Rogan (2:47)

Oh, it's real. Yeah, Boyan Slot is a gentleman who's been on the podcast before, has developed this device for, it's like, it sifts the ocean. It floats over the top of the ocean and it has this collector that sucks up plastic. And then they take that plastic and use it and recycle it and make like eyeglasses out of it and all sorts of other different things.

Okay, so number one is China.

Andrew D. Huberman (3:16)

By a wide margin. By a wide margin.

Joe Rogan (3:19)

Countries polluting the oceans the most, annual metric tons of mismanaged plastic waste and total amount ending up in global waters. This is fucking insane. So China is 8.8 metric tons.

Indonesia is number two with 3.2. Philippines is number three with 1.9. You go all the way down to the United States is 0.30.

Andrew D. Huberman (3:45)

Well, China's got no excuse because their GDP is way up there. They could actually manage it. But some of these other countries, as you mentioned, are definitely lower GDP relative to the United States and China.

Joe Rogan (3:54)

Right, for sure. Like, yeah, definitely like Malaysia and Nigeria, but-

Andrew D. Huberman (4:00)

China's got no excuse. That's incredible.

Joe Rogan (4:03)

Yeah. Is some of that them buying our stuff though? Don't we sell our trash? We buy it from them, bro. I mean, oh, trash, buy their trash. They take it and then we're like, here, you deal with it. I've heard of that happening. I don't know, not to a gigantic extent like that. I don't know about, you know- Right, for waste management, right? Yeah, like they might have a company that handles that. Perhaps.