#1943 - Joel Turner

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience. What's up, Joel?

Joel Turner (0:14)

How are you?

Joe Rogan (0:15)

Good to see you, brother.

Joel Turner (0:15)

I'm good, thanks for having me, man.

Joe Rogan (0:16)

I'm very happy to talk to you, because, you know, I think that what you teach applies to not just archery, but applies to life, and applies to anxiety-filled situations. And you have figured out this one element of archery that so many people can't seem to put their finger on. And it's the anxiety of the shot. You have figured this out in a way that is so useful, and it's so repeatable, and I think it's so important. And I think a lot of people are gonna go, what, you're gonna just talk about archery shots?

I think this applies to life. What you've done with your ShotIQ system, and so let me explain to people that don't understand this.

Bow hunting and archery, especially competitive archery, it oftentimes boils down to this one moment.

And when you have one moment and there's so much anxiety on this one moment, people have a tendency to panic and to rush through things. And I think people have found that in life, in many situations, in different occupations, in different practices and disciplines, this anticipation and anxiety of one moment where they lose their mind and they don't even remember what happened. It's like, oh! And they can't keep their shit together. You have figured out a way to make a system where you have very clear, defined guidelines that people can follow where they could stay in the moment and not lose their fucking mind at this moment of anticipation. And I think the success speaks to itself. Your son, who's an incredible archer, who's been taught by you, using your methods, is now, what is he number one in the world?

Joel Turner (2:08)

Well, the ranking system is weird, but he's won every major indoor archery event that there is.

Joe Rogan (2:17)

And he's 15

Joel Turner (2:18)

Well, he just turned 16

Joe Rogan (2:19)

Oh, boy, he's old.

Joel Turner (2:20)

He's driving now, so that's scary as hell. But so he won Vegas at 15 Just, I mean, he turned 15 the day before, and then he wins Vegas, which is the biggest indoor archery shoot there is.

Joe Rogan (2:33)

It's huge.

Joel Turner (2:34)

Yeah. And then just to watch him up there is just amazing.

To know that, I mean, I can watch him, I'm like, oh, yeah, this is going in, right? Just you can see it in their eye. And I see this in a lot of people that they don't have that look, you know? They have that anxiety, that look. It's like, oh, what's happening? And they're just letting things happen.

And with Bodhi, he's just like, this is going in. It was so funny because he just won Lancaster, the Lancaster Classic, which is another huge indoor archery shoot. And when you shoot Lancaster, you're in the practice range. And he came in first seed because he shot the second ever, well, there's been, I think, five people now in history that have shot a, well, four people that have shot a 660 qualification round.

Joe Rogan (3:20)

Now, let's explain what that means.

Joel Turner (3:22)

That is hitting a penny every time, 60 arrows in a row.

Joe Rogan (3:26)

Which is insane.

Joel Turner (3:27)

At 20 yards.

Joe Rogan (3:28)

The amount of concentration involved in that. And a lot of people are like, 20 yards is not that far.

Listen, you're shooting a penny, and you're shooting it 60 times in a row.

Joel Turner (3:38)

In a row, right?

Joe Rogan (3:39)

Which is just the possibility of just a little fuck up. And when you're at like number 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44 And every one of them, flop, flop, flop.

Joel Turner (3:53)

Yeah. So he shoots his 660 So he shot one last year, 660 last year. So he was the third one in history to do it. And then this year, he did it again. So now he's the first person in history to shoot two 660s, back to back.

So then he comes in the elimination rounds, wins those. And so he comes in first seed for the big shootoff, which is you're up on a stage, and it's just you, it's head to head, so it's you and another person.

And when you start, you come in first seed, the person that's in front of you that maybe came in fourth, fifth, sixth, whatever, they get to shoot out on the stage against somebody. So they actually get to zero their bow, because the lighting is different, and it's huge. I mean, you're trying to hit this penny. And then they have a 12 ring that's the size of their arrow. Basically, it's like 27 diameter, 27-64th diameter. It's no bigger than their arrow.