#1942 - Mark Greaney

Joe Rogan (0:13)

Nice to meet you, man.

Mark Greaney (0:14)

It's very nice to meet you.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

I've read, I'm on the 11th book of yours now. So the whole Gray Man series, I'm on Sierra 6

Mark Greaney (0:25)

Yeah, yeah. The new one comes out immediately, so.

Joe Rogan (0:29)

Yeah. The 12th.

They sent me the new one. Yeah, so I have a copy of it.

Mark Greaney (0:33)

That's awesome. I appreciate reading.

Joe Rogan (0:34)

It's, you write some fucked up books, man.

You seem like such a normal guy. I was always wondering, I'm like, how does someone write like this and not be a total psycho? Like the fact that you have those thoughts in your mind and you can envision and create these scenarios in your brain.

Mark Greaney (0:57)

Yeah, that pops into my head a lot when I'm talking to people like my aunt who's passed away but she was 93 and, you know, it's like, hey, Dorothy, here's my book about sex trafficking. I hope you enjoy it. You know, she read it.

My aunt, if I joined the Taliban, she'd be like, well, you know, they have some nice clothing or something. She'd never find a positive, so she never complained about anything. But yeah, I do run into people all the time, you know, kids, parents or, you know, on my soccer team, my kid's soccer team or whatever.

And I'm like, I wonder what they think of me because I wonder if they know how many of them have read your book. Yeah, it's the ones that say they've read my books. And then I kind of feel like crap.

Joe Rogan (1:37)

Yeah, I get that with parents when they say they've listened to my podcast. I really love your podcast. My shit.

What kind of psycho stuff do we have to talk about now? But your your books are so violent. They're so it's like, for me, it's I really I listen to them on on audio when I'm in the sauna all the time.

Mark Greaney (2:00)

Oh, great.

Joe Rogan (2:00)

Because the sauna is so torturous, you know, because I keep it at 190 degrees and I'm in there for 25 minutes. It's fucking rough.

Mark Greaney (2:07)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:07)

And it's like that kind of like the kind of insane narratives that you create the kind of, you know, situations that you create in your mind, they're they're very good when you're suffering.

Mark Greaney (2:23)

Yeah, I have a blue collar, like philosophy about writing, like I like generating a product that people can use if their flights delayed or they're snowed in or whatever. And I get people emailing me all the time. It's like, hey, I read your book when my mom was sick and I was in the hospital. And, you know, I like that, you know, that it serves a sort of physical purpose, you know, like it's a it's an it's an instrument. It's not just an idea.

Joe Rogan (2:47)

It's a great instrument of escapism. Yeah, because because it's so compelling and because the books are so interesting. And by the way, shout out to Jack Carr, because Jack Carr is the guy who turned me on. That's fantastic, because I read his first book and I was like, this is great. Do you have any other authors that you recommend? Like who are you into? And then he told me about you.

Mark Greaney (3:05)

Yeah, yeah, we've been friends before his first book came out.

We were connected with one another through a guy in the firearms industry. And I was like, yeah, I think this guy read his book. I was like, yeah, he's going somewhere. Little did I know, I think he'd already had it optioned for TV.

Joe Rogan (3:21)

Yeah, he's just an awesome person, too. You know, just a really great guy. You know, I met him a few years back in elk hunting camp.

Oh, actually where I met him in Utah. Oh, and I didn't know who he was. I hadn't read any of his books. He gave me a copy of his book. Just seemed like a really nice guy. And I got in and I'm like, this book is fucking great.

Mark Greaney (3:40)

Yeah. Yeah. Got in great with the series, too.

Joe Rogan (3:42)

Oh, yeah.

Mark Greaney (3:43)

I was impressed with it. You know, I was really impressed.

Joe Rogan (3:45)

Yeah, I I I enjoyed the Gray Man movie, but it was not as good as your book.

Mark Greaney (3:51)

Thank you for saying that.

Joe Rogan (3:52)

It just wasn't the same story.