#1933 - Jordan Peterson

Joe Rogan (0:14)

I didn't even notice you have a two-tone suit going on.

Jordan Peterson (0:17)

Can I tell you about this suit?

Joe Rogan (0:18)

Please do.

Jordan Peterson (0:19)

Well.

Joe Rogan (0:20)

What's happening with that?

Jordan Peterson (0:20)

Company made this for me, LGFG. They made me a dozen suits.

One for each rule from 12 Rules for Life. The rules are printed on the back of this, underneath the collar. This is a Heaven and Hell suit. So it's quite fun.

Joe Rogan (0:34)

Which one's hell?

Jordan Peterson (0:35)

I'll show you in a sec. So this is hell's red, Joe. Come on.

Joe Rogan (0:38)

But that's not really red. Well, it's stylish.

Jordan Peterson (0:42)

It's okay. Hell's magenta.

Yeah. It's designer hell. Ah, nice. So this is made out of sheep's wool, and this is made out of goat's wool. So that's pretty funny. And then in here, you've got your basic heaven lining and your basic hell lining.

Yeah. So.

Joe Rogan (0:59)

I don't think I've ever seen a man walk around with a, I think you're one up.

Jordan Peterson (1:03)

Am I one up?

Joe Rogan (1:04)

Yeah, you're one up. Are you?

Jordan Peterson (1:06)

No, that's good. It's double breasted.

Joe Rogan (1:09)

Double breasted.

Jordan Peterson (1:10)

Fancy.

Yeah. I've got one suit with you in the lining too.

Joe Rogan (1:13)

Oh, no.

Jordan Peterson (1:13)

I was going to wear it today. I thought about wearing it. It's a black suit with platinum wires in it, which is kind of cool. And inside, it's got black and white images of, like, really sharp, harsh graphic images of you and Brett Weinstein and Ben Shapiro and Russell Brand and, you know, as an assortment of the...

Joe Rogan (1:36)

Oh, that whole intellectual dark web thing.

Jordan Peterson (1:39)

Sam Harris too.

Joe Rogan (1:39)

Sam's in there.

Jordan Peterson (1:40)

Sam's in there too. Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:42)

I still have hope for Sam Harris.

Jordan Peterson (1:44)

Yeah, me too.

Me too. Yeah, I hope he makes a comeback.

Joe Rogan (1:48)

I mean, he's not really going away. He's just got some weird opinions.

Jordan Peterson (1:51)

Yeah, well, there's plenty of that floating around.

Joe Rogan (1:54)

Well, you know, I think when you have, like, complex, fascinating brains, they go off in all kinds of different directions. Don't you think?

Jordan Peterson (2:02)

This is one of the dangers of being creative, right? Most creative ideas are wrong, and a good section of those wrong ones are fatal.

But now and then you get one that's necessary.

Joe Rogan (2:13)

Yeah, we were talking about Twitter files before we got Roland and what the new stuff is. So the new stuff has something to do with AI and some sort of content moderation?

Jordan Peterson (2:25)

Oh yeah, well, Tabby released some Twitter files today on Twitter, obviously, and they're going through the code. Now, I don't understand the technical details, but you don't exactly know when you see the output of a code-generated system exactly what rules it's using to sort the information. I suppose that's the equivalent of shadow banning, and there was apparently all sorts of directives built into the code to amplify certain kinds of messages and de-amplify others. So apparently, Musk is doing what he can to clean that up. Rubin reported that the other day.

Then Tabby today, he was talking more about the whole Russian collusion fabrication, so that's also real fun.

Joe Rogan (3:14)

Well, how about the one guy that was going after Trump who it turned out was actually in collusion with the Russians?

Jordan Peterson (3:21)

Oh, yeah, that's a rough one. Yeah.

Well, the best defense is a good offense, you know, and so.

Joe Rogan (3:29)

I guess.

Jordan Peterson (3:30)

I guess.

Joe Rogan (3:31)

Yeah, I guess.

Jordan Peterson (3:32)

I know.

Joe Rogan (3:33)

But it's like, why would anybody not think that that was going to come around to get them?

Jordan Peterson (3:38)

It's amazing how often people don't think that, you know, what they're doing isn't going to, isn't going to end up aimed squarely at them.

Joe Rogan (3:46)

Well, this Twitter thing, right? Like they never suspected that someone like Elon was going to come along and buy Twitter.

And then in an unheard of tactic, have a bunch of journalists review everything in all of their Slack meetings and all their emails, look under the code, look under the wiring under the machine and find out how it was actually running and why I mean, the fact that anyone would ever think that any of this stuff is a good idea, that people don't understand like the dangers of censorship. They don't understand what where this leads to.