#1923 - Mike Baker

Jamie (0:08)

All day.

Joe Rogan (0:16)

You're just going to let them ban bullshit? That could be a problem for bullshit.

Jamie (0:23)

Some bullshit's fun.

Mike Baker (0:24)

I think you abdicated your responsibility.

Jamie (0:26)

Some bullshit's fun and should just be, that's the bullshit you like.

Joe Rogan (0:29)

Some bullshit is fun.

Jamie (0:30)

Like wrestling or whatever.

Joe Rogan (0:31)

Yes. But wrestling doesn't cost people billions and billions of dollars when it doesn't go right.

Do you think that fucking guy who crashed FTX, the Binance guy, do you think he had any idea that he was going to crash his business too?

Jamie (0:47)

Oh, collateral damage?

Joe Rogan (0:49)

Yeah, they're going under. He's lost like $15 billion over the last few days.

Jamie (0:57)

Yeah, I would say no, he didn't see it coming.

Joe Rogan (0:59)

But fucking duh, fucking duh. You basically showed everybody how vulnerable this money on a hard drive is.

This like weird...

Mike Baker (1:10)

I'm mining, I'm mining for coin. Are you?

Joe Rogan (1:13)

You're mining?

Mike Baker (1:13)

No, no, no, I'm just kidding, I'm just saying.

Joe Rogan (1:15)

Wonderful idea. It's so profitable to mine.

Mike Baker (1:18)

It was either that or Cobalt. And crypto seemed easier.

Joe Rogan (1:24)

So Jamie, you were saying that people were mad. First of all, they were mad at Peter Zian.

Jamie (1:28)

Mostly that.

Joe Rogan (1:28)

Yeah, for saying what seems to be the case is that a lot of crypto was just horseshit.

Jamie (1:35)

The one comment he made that I think I would go against too is that it has no intrinsic value because it seems that a lot of things have no intrinsic value.

Joe Rogan (1:44)

Right. Well, it doesn't have a value unless we agree it has a value. And you can buy a lot of stuff with... I mean, Antonopoulos, doesn't he buy everything? Like, pieces, everything with Bitcoin?

Jamie (1:54)

Tons of stuff you could do with it. Tons of stuff going on with it. It has uses.

I don't know if they're all the uses everyone thought they'd be by now or what's going on with it because there's obviously a lot of confusion.

Joe Rogan (2:03)

But then people were mad at you.

Jamie (2:05)

Well, just because he had to leave. We had to fight the catch.

Joe Rogan (2:09)

So they were mad that you didn't grill him.

Mike Baker (2:12)

Right.

Jamie (2:12)

So just let him stand up for bullshit. Let him speak on whatever.

Mike Baker (2:16)

No, I thought they were mad because you invented crypto. I didn't know.

Joe Rogan (2:20)

Imagine if that was Satoshi.

Jamie (2:21)

That will come out later.

Joe Rogan (2:22)

He's the main guy. All this time he's been hiding in plain sight.

Jamie (2:28)

That's a whole other fun story too that we'll never know.

Joe Rogan (2:31)

It's kind of funny, right? It's like him and Banksy.

They're like the best escape artists ever.

Mike Baker (2:36)

And we've never seen them together. It's like Ringo Starr and Yasser Arafat. You never saw them photographed together.

Joe Rogan (2:42)

I think they look different. I think that's just one of them fun things to say before the internet came around. Look how old you are. Ringo Starr, Yasser Arafat. Everybody's like, what the fuck is he saying? Yasser Arafat. That guy's dead.

Mike Baker (2:56)

He is dead. He's been dead and continues to be dead.

Joe Rogan (2:59)

Ringo's still alive, though, right? He's like the last of the Beatles that's still alive other than Paul McCartney.

Mike Baker (3:05)

Just the two of them. George Harrison and God bless him, John Lennon.

Joe Rogan (3:09)

See?

Mike Baker (3:10)

What am I talking about? Look at that.

Joe Rogan (3:12)

That's not bad.

Mike Baker (3:16)

Look at the hat. That's a side by side comparing two photos, but they were never photographed in the same room.

We still to this day don't know.

Joe Rogan (3:23)

Imagine if you were a rock star, but you were also a dictator.

Has any dictator ever tried to become a rock star? If anybody could pull that off, maybe the Sultan of Brunei.

Mike Baker (3:33)

Or a terrorist. That's great cover to travel around the world as a rock star.

Joe Rogan (3:38)

And also be a terrorist?

Mike Baker (3:40)

Or a spy.

Joe Rogan (3:42)

Is that a movie?

Mike Baker (3:44)

There was, about what's his name, The Catcher.

Not Yogi Berra, the baseball guy. Who traveled as a spy.

Joe Rogan (3:51)

I'm thinking of that movie that was based around the guy from the, no, the spy. The guy from The Gong Show.