#1915 - Brian Simpson

Brian Simpson (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience. Thank you, man.

Brian Simpson (0:15)

My pleasure.

Brian Simpson (0:20)

Okay, first of all, Joe, did you see the guy yesterday, his debut MMA match, he won, by the way. He has no lower body.

Joe Rogan (0:30)

Yes, Zion.

Brian Simpson (0:31)

Zion.

Joe Rogan (0:32)

Yeah, dude, incredible.

Brian Simpson (0:34)

It was unbelievable.

Joe Rogan (0:36)

How fast he closes the distance with no legs.

Brian Simpson (0:39)

And so what my question is, are you...

Joe Rogan (0:44)

Zion Clark, amazing.

Brian Simpson (0:47)

Are you allowed, is he considered a downed opponent?

Joe Rogan (0:50)

That's a good question.

Brian Simpson (0:51)

Because that...

Joe Rogan (0:52)

Changes the game.

Brian Simpson (0:55)

That makes him OP, because you can't kick him.

Joe Rogan (0:57)

You can kick him in the body. You can kick a downed opponent in the body.

I mean, you think a leg kick is bad? Imagine an arm kick.

Brian Simpson (1:05)

And then imagine, like, you can't grab his legs, you can't...

Joe Rogan (1:10)

And also, his upper body is insanely strong for someone of that weight class. So you have to think, like...

First of all, nothing but props for the guy. No excuses. The guy is amazing. And just the fucking amount of courage that it takes to even train and become an elite wrestler, and then become an MMA fighter, all with no legs. Incredible.

Brian Simpson (1:31)

Yeah, that's insane.

Joe Rogan (1:32)

No one's saying there's an advantage.

But one thing that he's able to do... I mean, you don't have legs to control. So, like, your game is different. There's...

In the stand-up game, you know, punches... Like, if you're punching a guy that's down like that, and literally is at the hips, like, you have to bend your knees down and try to punch him. Like, to train for that guy...

Brian Simpson (1:56)

How do you train for that guy? All your power comes from your legs. So, if you can't push off when you punch, you can't really load up and, you know...

Joe Rogan (2:05)

And if you leg kick that guy in his arm and break his arm, that's fucked up. Because now he can't even get around.

Brian Simpson (2:12)

But he's probably so... Because there's a thing, you know that old quote about, like, don't argue with a fool because they'll drag you down to that level and beat you with experience?

Joe Rogan (2:20)

Right.

Brian Simpson (2:20)

It's like that. It's like, he has way more experience down there than you do, and you got to get down there.

Joe Rogan (2:24)

Look how fast he can move just on his arms. That's insane.

Brian Simpson (2:28)

Boy, that's terrifying.

Jamie (2:30)

33-inch vertical jump.

Joe Rogan (2:32)

That's incredible.

Jamie (2:34)

Whatever that means.

Joe Rogan (2:35)

Have you ever seen that woman who was born with no legs, and she does everything with her feet? She puts her lipstick on with her feet. She eats with her feet. She writes her name with her feet.

Yeah, it's crazy.

She has dexterity with her feet like people have with their hands. Which makes you think, like, I wonder if that's like a skill that we all could acquire because we don't use our legs for that. Because there's certain things that people could do with their hands, right? Have you ever seen a guy who's really good at boxing? Have you done any boxing?

Brian Simpson (3:05)

A little bit, yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:06)

One of the things that's really awkward to learn is the left hook. It feels very weird.

Brian Simpson (3:09)

It does, yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:10)

When you're standing like this, and you've got to do that, it feels very weird to learn how to do that properly. It's a very odd movement, and people are all like...

But eventually, it gets to the point where it's natural. In a fight, it just comes out. You train it. There's all these hidden abilities that our bodies have, but we just don't ever use them in that way.

Brian Simpson (3:30)

I think necessity is necessary. The fact that you have no choice, that is the number one motivator.

If I don't learn how to do the shit with my feet, I'm never going to do shit.

Joe Rogan (3:42)

Right.

Brian Simpson (3:43)

I admire that kind of shit.

Joe Rogan (3:44)

And your nervous system, the way you learn things is by repetitive motion. You do it over and over. That's why when you tie your shoes, you don't even think about it.

Eddie Bravo used to always use that as an example about jujitsu, that you've got to train it to the point where it's automatic, like tying your shoes. Because when you tie your shoes, you're not thinking, okay, I make this loop, and I wrap it around that loop, and I go under, and I do that. You don't think that.