#1906 - David Goggins

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience. But I was just on vacation.

David Goggins (0:19)

How was vacation?

Joe Rogan (0:20)

Nice. Well, vacations are hard, you know, because like, even though I enjoy rest, I always feel like I shouldn't be.

David Goggins (0:30)

Always, I get it.

Joe Rogan (0:31)

Do you go on vacations?

David Goggins (0:33)

No.

Joe Rogan (0:34)

Never?

David Goggins (0:34)

No. Nope.

Joe Rogan (0:37)

For me, creatively, it's good. It's good to get a reset, because I come back in guns blazing, like I really don't risk any mental burnout when I do it.

David Goggins (0:46)

Well, I have resets, but my resets are like, I call them aid stations, mental aid stations.

So when you're going fucking hard and you're grinding all the fucking time, like everybody knows, you're 24 hours in the day. But when I'm in the shower, it's a mental aid station. I don't think about shit. I don't fucking think about people. I don't think about work. I don't think about running. I don't think about working out.

When I'm in the car, another fucking mental aid station. When I'm fucking eating, mental aid station. So people eat and they work and all that sort of shit, man. So I can grind hard, because a lot of times, man, I'm in mental fucking aid stations, chilling.

Joe Rogan (1:23)

So you have little mini vacations.

David Goggins (1:25)

Mini vacations, man, all day long. All day long.

Joe Rogan (1:28)

Do you feel now almost a responsibility to stay at it all the time, because so many people are watching and paying attention and drawing inspiration from you?

David Goggins (1:39)

100%. I mean, I probably would have retired a long time ago, but I get these emails from people, and it's like they're living through me.

Like, their strength comes through what they know I'm doing. So there's so many times I want to get up and say, oh, man, fuck it, man, I got mine, I'm good. And I'm like, fuck, fucking Tommy out there, motherfucker. Fucking Tommy talking about...

Joe Rogan (2:05)

Tommy in his email.

David Goggins (2:06)

Tommy talking about fucking, man.

Joe Rogan (2:07)

He saved his life.

David Goggins (2:08)

Man, I ran 10 miles last night because of you, man. I'm like, you know, a lot of people can live off of that, and they can fucking be good with that.

And, you know, a lot of motivational people come out here, man, and run their motherfucking mouths about shit. And I know they are not doing shit. They sit back, and they're fucking like, you know, they have their little brainstorming sessions about, oh, what should we say? What's gonna connect with people while they're sitting there fucking ass? My brainstorming sessions is fucking out there in the fucking grip of life, fucking grinding. And that's where all my material comes from to suck.

Every bit of it comes from the suck.

Joe Rogan (2:46)

And that's the difference between, there's like a whole industry now that's dedicated to trying to help people get motivated. And a lot of the people that are involved in that are very unqualified.

David Goggins (2:57)

100%.

Joe Rogan (2:58)

Because they're not really doing anything.

David Goggins (2:59)

No.

Joe Rogan (3:00)

There's so many people that haven't actually done anything, but they'll try to teach you how to get your life in order, how to get your mind right and develop that warrior mentality. I'm like, bitch, you don't have that.

David Goggins (3:12)

Well, they're utilizing the weakness of the world right now. The world's in a very bad place. So these people who are like con artists, they sit back and say, oh, I can come up with this, I can come up with this, and this right here can probably make me some money.

So they're in it for fucked up reasons.

Joe Rogan (3:28)

There's just not a whole lot of people like you.

You know, I love that phrase, uncommon amongst uncommon men, because it's such a good phrase because it just shows you, you've been on this path for so long and you're grinding for so long, but you're also honest about there's moments where you don't want to fucking do this, which is why it's so interesting, because you do it. Right. You do it without any reservation. You just go through it.

David Goggins (4:00)

Right.

Joe Rogan (4:00)

But you always talk about, I don't want to fucking do this shit, but you always do it.

David Goggins (4:03)

That's it.

Joe Rogan (4:04)

But that's what people need to hear because they feel like that somewhere out there, there's some superhuman person who never feels despair, and doesn't have any, there's no hesitation. So they feel like there's this person that's so different than them, and so much stronger than them, and doesn't ever have any procrastination.