#1898 - Neal Brennan

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Neal Brennan (0:11)

Can you handle this? That's not physical, it's like, can you handle being in a incredibly abstract place, and your brain doing shit it's never done before?

Joe Rogan (0:23)

Yeah, that seems to be what happens when people can't handle it, is just the resistance of it, just like, no, no, no, and then that's the bad trip.

Neal Brennan (0:33)

Yeah, they say like, surrender, and I've had, I've had, you know, journeys. Joe, when you're in the medicine game, as long as I've been in it, you call it medicine.

Joe Rogan (0:47)

Plant medicine. It doesn't immediately red flags go up in your, oh my God, don't say plant medicine.

Neal Brennan (0:53)

Yeah, can't not say it. It's, I'm wearing a fucking ayahuasca anklet as we speak, and I want to, I want to punch myself in the other side of the face.

Joe Rogan (1:03)

There's so much jargon and lingo that goes with like psychedelic talk that leads to like cults.

Neal Brennan (1:09)

Yeah. It's not different at all. Did you watch the, the Orgasm Inc documentary on Netflix yet?

Joe Rogan (1:18)

No.

Neal Brennan (1:18)

It's about that one touch.

It's, it's really funny because I heard it's great. It's great. It's just at all the same shit happens. It doesn't matter where it's the I did a joke one time that every cult at some point, the the leader of every religious cult says, Hey, God spoke to me and he says, I got to fuck all your wives without fail, every sink across the board, all of them. I got that call. Yes. Send your wife. I'm going to fuck her now. God decided. Now's the time. This one was different because it's a female leader, but, and it was based on orgasm, but this one was like, you got to fuck him if you're having a hard time.

It was like the opposite of HR where it was, you know, you should, if you have a problem with him, you got to fuck him.

Joe Rogan (2:12)

There's a place here that was a cult and the building was for sale. I almost bought the building. I was like in negotiation.

Neal Brennan (2:20)

Oh, that's where you were going to have the club, right?

Joe Rogan (2:22)

Yeah. It's the documentary is called Holy Hell.

Neal Brennan (2:26)

I still haven't watched it. It's on my list.

Joe Rogan (2:27)

It's fucking wild. It started out in Los Angeles and this guy was, he would get his male disciples and he would give them therapy, make them pay for therapy, it's like 50 bucks, and then he would fuck them.

Neal Brennan (2:45)

Another hallmark, yeah. So it's like pyramid scheme.

Joe Rogan (2:48)

Yeah.

Neal Brennan (2:48)

Yep. I got to, hey, bad news, I got to fuck you.

Joe Rogan (2:51)

That's part of the deal.

Neal Brennan (2:53)

I don't know what to say. You want to be in there?

Joe Rogan (2:54)

To give you real therapy.

Neal Brennan (2:55)

Part of the group or not?

Joe Rogan (2:56)

Yeah.

But it's just so sad, like listen to these guys tell the story. It's like there's some weird thing about human beings where they gravitate towards a big leader, towards someone who claims they have the answers and seems very confident and can speak reasonably well. There's almost like a cheat code where people just like, they get locked into that.

Neal Brennan (3:23)

It feels like order.

It just feels like order. If you go, if somebody says, I know, and they're tall, first of all, if they're tall, that gets you like 60% of the way there.

Joe Rogan (3:36)

That helps.

Neal Brennan (3:37)

If they're tall and says, I know what we should do, charismatic, good-looking, fit, attractive to women, like that'll, it just makes you feel like a daddy's here.

Some daddy's here, a different daddy. It's like, oh, all right, that's what people like about Trump, that's what people like about Obama. Any most presidents are some form of that.

Joe Rogan (4:01)

Yeah.

Neal Brennan (4:02)

Reagan, certainly two-termers, George W. Bush in a weird way, form a, you know what I mean? Like it's sort of, George Bush, George W. Bush, guy walked like he had a fucking two-foot cock.

Guy walked like he had to, he had to leave room for two dicks. That's how wide his gait was. And he said he used to practice it.

Joe Rogan (4:28)

He practiced his gait?

Neal Brennan (4:29)

George W. Bush used to practice his gait. You look it up. Yeah. He would talk about it in interviews.