#1885 - Mike Sarraille & Andy Stumpf

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Andy Stumpf (0:14)

Tell us about your disgusting mouth.

Mike Sarraille (0:18)

So, you know, you talked about high school. You did it in high school.

I did it one time.

Joe Rogan (0:22)

He's got to turn it on to you. You did it one time.

Andy Stumpf (0:25)

One time in high school and never touched it again. Go ahead, Mr. 19 years.

Joe Rogan (0:28)

Mike was just saying that he had to get his skin grafted. And he's like, you did it once.

Mike Sarraille (0:34)

Well, I remember the first time I did it. Somebody gave me red man, a jaw, and it was over. I was just yakking everywhere. Where I started was in the Marine Corps is when we're in a hide site, you have to stay awake when it's your turn for security, but that could be like 3 a.m. in the morning after you've been hiking for like six hours.

Joe Rogan (0:53)

Right.

Mike Sarraille (0:54)

So, eventually, my team leader is like, you're going to put a dip in to do whatever it takes to stay awake during your watch.

Joe Rogan (1:00)

Does dip keep you awake?

Andy Stumpf (1:03)

Nicotine does.

Joe Rogan (1:04)

It should, but dip will?

Mike Sarraille (1:06)

Yes, absolutely. And so it morphed from there in the Marines and we lived, I like to say we lived off of three things on deployment, water, coffee, and dip.

And even on a patrol with these guys, I would have a dip in, chewing caffeine gum, and drinking water.

Andy Stumpf (1:22)

Jesus. Super healthy.

Joe Rogan (1:24)

I'm going to send this to Brendan Chubb, because that motherfucker keeps, he has those little pouches, they're so nasty.

He keeps four or five of them in his mouth at a time. He looks like a squirrel. Like he's got a little, like he's storing nuts.

Mike Sarraille (1:37)

So now you have to get grafted.

Joe Rogan (1:39)

So you have to have skin grafted?

Mike Sarraille (1:40)

So they take the tissue from the top of your mouth and then graft it to the bottom of the teeth because it's receded quite a bit.

Andy Stumpf (1:47)

Hold on, one second, sorry.

Joe Rogan (1:50)

Are you good now? Okay.

So what did it do to your mouth?

Mike Sarraille (1:55)

I think after 10 years of, so I did switch from long cut to pouches and then pouches are...

Joe Rogan (2:03)

Mike, that makes a fucking difference.

Mike Sarraille (2:07)

There was a logical progression.

Andy Stumpf (2:09)

I switched from beer to vodka. It's totally fine, guys.

Joe Rogan (2:13)

I went from heroin to pills.

Mike Sarraille (2:15)

So the intent was long cut to pouches, right? And pouches, you would wean yourself off and that did not work.

Joe Rogan (2:22)

And so what is it? Is it rotting your gums?

Mike Sarraille (2:25)

It just recedes your gums. It doesn't rot your gums, but it recedes it.

Joe Rogan (2:29)

Wow.

Andy Stumpf (2:30)

So you have yuck mouth.

Mike Sarraille (2:31)

Yuck mouth.

Andy Stumpf (2:32)

Let me see.

Joe Rogan (2:34)

Let me see it. How bad is it?

Mike Sarraille (2:36)

First off, I'm here just to debunk or fact check. Andy says.

Joe Rogan (2:41)

Well, Andy, people know you, Andy Stumpf. Mike, please introduce yourself.

Tell you how you know this degenerate.

Mike Sarraille (2:46)

Yes, absolutely. I'm actually embarrassed. Mike Sarraille, born in California as well, enlisted in the Marine Corps, was a recon Marine and a scout snapper and eventually crossed over to the SEAL teams as an officer and retired after 20 years like Andy. We served at the same place, but I've got to tell you about the first time I met Andy because people ask me like, what's Andy Stumpf like? Because I meet people that are like, oh, Andy Stumpf. I'm like, he is a real dick.

Andy is a dick.

Joe Rogan (3:15)

So he's been nice to me. How weird.

Andy Stumpf (3:18)

I don't remember the story.

Joe Rogan (3:19)

He's been a good friend. Always been friendly.

Great sense of humor.

Andy Stumpf (3:23)

I'm not sure.

Joe Rogan (3:23)

A little reckless.

Mike Sarraille (3:25)

So we're at SEAL Team 3 and SEAL teams are younger. The average age is what? I think like 19 to 23

Andy Stumpf (3:32)

At a conventional team? Early 20s at best.

Mike Sarraille (3:34)

Early 20s at best. And so there's a bunch of officers in the operations room at SEAL Team 3 and we're talking. There's a lot of group think going on.

We're bad-mouthing the leadership on a decision that was made and all of a sudden this guy walks in who's got just a, he's in his uniform, which is rare. He must be checking in. He's got this big stack of ribbons to our two rows of ribbons and we're talking. He's listening in. We sort of see this guy in the background and what was odd was you stepped in and you're like, I think you're all wrong. And he killed us with logic because remember each of us has like two combat deployments at this point. We think we have it all figured out.