#1880 - Tulsi Gabbard

Joe Rogan (0:14)

Good to see you.

Tulsi Gabbard (0:15)

It's good to be back.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

Nice cracking.

Tulsi Gabbard (0:16)

Nice seeing you.

Joe Rogan (0:17)

What's it been like, retiring from being a congresswoman for a wee bit?

Tulsi Gabbard (0:23)

It feels so weird hearing that word.

Joe Rogan (0:25)

Retire? It's a dirty word.

Tulsi Gabbard (0:28)

I don't know what that means.

Joe Rogan (0:29)

I don't believe in retirement.

Tulsi Gabbard (0:30)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:31)

I believe in quitting.

Tulsi Gabbard (0:32)

Yeah. I suppose.

Or moving on, rather. Moving on. That's where I've never seen politics as a quote unquote career. Some people are like, oh, how's it like retiring from congress? I can't relate to that. I'm just continuing the work, but in a different way.

Joe Rogan (0:51)

Well, the way you did it, though, is what most people should do.

When people are running for office and then they're also in a job, you're not doing a good job at that job. There's no way you can be. Running for office, just campaign financing, just raising the money for the campaign has to be crazy. The amount of time, there's no way that you could be dedicating 100% of your time to your constituents like you should be.

Tulsi Gabbard (1:17)

Yeah, it has to be your full-time mission.

And people who come and ask me, they're like, oh, I'm thinking of running for office. And that's literally what I tell them. I'm like, are you ready to quit everything else in your life and have the support of your family and dedicate all your energy towards this mission of service? Because it will require that. If you're serious about it, it will require that.

Joe Rogan (1:40)

If you want to do it at your best.

Tulsi Gabbard (1:43)

Absolutely. And if you want to be truly sincere, when you're knocking on people's doors, you're standing in a town hall meeting and you're saying, hey, essentially, give me your trust that I will fight for you, I will speak for you, I will represent you every single day. How are you going to do that if you're like, yeah, by the way, I got this side gig or that side gig or this other loyalty that is something other than you, the people, the voter?

And I don't know, I think more and more people are starting to pick up on that and question that in both people who are running for office and they're elected. It's like, who are you really working for?

Joe Rogan (2:24)

Well, they certainly should.

It's a complicated union. It is.

Tulsi Gabbard (2:30)

It is that.

Joe Rogan (2:32)

Between money and politics, and it's just like, it's, I mean, it would be wonderful if we could get money entirely out of politics. If the only way that a politician could make money while they're in office is just their salary, if we said it that way. Like, I'm sure you're aware of the Nancy Pelosi stuff.

It's wild. It is.

Tulsi Gabbard (2:52)

And look, this is, I think this is one of the good things about social media is, of course, the mainstream corporate media is hardly covering it at all. But because of social media, things like that are spreading like wildfire, like, hey, Paul Pelosi is doing these trades within this period of time of Nancy Pelosi voting on this bill or bringing a bill to the floor, because we've got to remember, Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House, nothing happens without her knowing about it or giving her stamp of approval. So regardless of whether it's happening in the Judiciary Committee or the Commerce Committee or the Armed Services Committee, if there's a bill coming to the floor and there's major legislation that's being passed or is being squashed, that is happening with her say so.

And so just in these last few days, you know, once people started making noise saying, hey, you as a member of Congress or your spouse or your adult child should not be allowed to conduct insider trading on issues that Congress is dealing with, which really covers every issue under the spectrum, they can't pretend anymore that they haven't been doing it.

And yet even as Nancy Pelosi is like, okay, okay, fine, we'll draft legislation, but Congress is about to take a break as they head into the general elections. And once again, she's refusing to bring the bill to the floor for a vote, saying, oh, well, you know, we're not going to bring it to the floor if it doesn't have support. Put people on the fricking spot. Make them cast that vote.