#1876 - Greg Fitzsimmons

Greg Fitzsimmons (0:17)

Does one, must one work out every day? Isn't that part of it, sir?

Joe Rogan (0:20)

Must one work out every day.

Greg Fitzsimmons (0:22)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:22)

One must work out. One must burn 500 calories in a workout every single day, seven days a week, 365 days, well, 60, 30

Greg Fitzsimmons (0:34)

30 days.

Joe Rogan (0:35)

I'm already expanding.

Greg Fitzsimmons (0:39)

So isn't it, is there a contest about who can burn the most calories?

Joe Rogan (0:43)

No, we're not doing that because we go crazy.

Greg Fitzsimmons (0:45)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:45)

The problem with contests is they absorb your whole life.

Greg Fitzsimmons (0:48)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:48)

And everybody except Ari has a family and obligations and jobs and podcasts and different things they have to do. We did it one year, the contest, and it was pretty obvious halfway in that we were fucked.

Greg Fitzsimmons (1:02)

I remember you got behind and then you just powered through and came from behind with some crazy workouts.

Joe Rogan (1:10)

Well, I was never really behind. I mean, I might have been behind for a day. In the beginning, we were trying to figure out how much we were going to burn. Because we were using this MyZones thing, so it's like you wear a chest strap.

And the chest strap gives you points with the application for however many minutes you are at 80% of your max heart rate versus 90% of your max heart rate, like 90s, two points, 80s, one, or something like that.

And Ari figured out that you could watch TV while you were doing cardio. So he watched movies on an iPad while he was doing cardio. And he ran up a big number, like 400 in a day.

SPEAKER_3 (1:52)

And we were like, fuck.

Joe Rogan (1:54)

That's a big number. That was like two movies.

And so then we really started getting crazy. And then one day I did 1,100 points. I did seven hours of cardio.

Greg Fitzsimmons (2:04)

No shit. Mostly what, running?

Joe Rogan (2:08)

No, mostly elliptical machine, because you could watch movies. So I watched John Wick like 50 times.

I kept rewinding it to the scene in the bathhouse where he kills everybody.

Just because it's so adrenaline filled, you can keep going. I watched some fights, I watched a bunch of shit, and it just got too crazy. We were losing our minds. We were really losing our minds. We were talking a lot of shit to each other. And Tom got sick, Tom got the flu, and then the day he got better from the flu, he ran 13 miles.

Greg Fitzsimmons (2:39)

No shit.

Joe Rogan (2:40)

The day he got better, he ran 13 miles through his neighbor, through the hills.

Greg Fitzsimmons (2:45)

Damn, that's different than a treadmill. 13 miles on the street is like...

Joe Rogan (2:49)

That's real.

Greg Fitzsimmons (2:50)

Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:52)

Yeah, we went crazy.

Greg Fitzsimmons (2:53)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:53)

And like, if that kept going, imagine if we had it for like six months.

We had a fitness contest for six months, and at the end of six months, you win like a million dollars. Yeah.

Greg Fitzsimmons (3:05)

You could have got a sponsor for that.

Joe Rogan (3:08)

Easy.

Greg Fitzsimmons (3:08)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:09)

The problem is it would become your whole life. We would go crazy.

And Bert would die. Bert would for sure have a heart attack. Or he would just be content coming in last like he did the last time. He talked a lot of shit and came in last.

Greg Fitzsimmons (3:20)

He did.

Yeah. Yeah, it seems like a great idea for your... Like, for me, working out is just for my head. I don't even give a shit. I mean, this body, I was naturally born with. It's a gift.

But my brain, if I work out, man, I just feel happy, and if I don't, I get depressed.

Joe Rogan (3:40)

So one of the things we talked about, Tom and I talked about specifically, was that when you do a lot of cardio in a day, like four hours of cardio in a day, he goes, all the internal chatter just goes away. I go, yeah, there's no negative talk. There's no anxiety and angst. And I really wonder how much of that that people walk around with all day could be fixed with cardio.

It could be fixed with rigorous exercise.

And they say weight lifting helps anxiety too. They say strength training does.

But for me, it's like cardio. Cardio seems to put me in this place where it just is like, whatever, who gives a fuck? It's just like a really peaceful, it like balances out what's really important to think about and worry about, versus like things that are just sort of bouncing around your head. You don't know if I should pay attention to that one or that one, and what should I freak out about the most? Like every time I watch the news, every time I look at the news, I'm like, how engaged do I get here? Do I freak out about Russia? Am I going to freak out, and then my whole day will be a freak out? Or do I recognize that there's not a goddamn thing I can do about this, and just casually be aware of it and hope it doesn't explode? That's the dilemma. Like basically every day, with wild shit like the Russia-Ukraine War, most of the time I look at the news, I'm like, how much am I going to engage with this?